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PJDavis1970

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Sharing internal HDD over network
« on: June 02, 2016, 09:42:27 AM »
What is the best way to achieve this?

OK I can see the hdd easily if I connect via a windows/linux box.  I can see the drive.
My TV though cannot see the drive.  When I connect to the Q10 via my tv directly I can only see the android shares (photos, music, videos)
Is there a way to share the hdd to allow my tv to see it?

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2016, 11:44:29 AM »
Use SAMBA and give it free.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2016, 11:51:47 AM »
Use SAMBA and give it free.

Already on.  Like I said I can see the drive on my windows and linux boxes..  The TV only sees the android device and only accesses the android shared dirs..  I need to find a way to share the internal drive with the android shared folders.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 12:09:41 PM »
You can share the Android file system (so internal HDD and all attached drives) via Samba by turning on Samba sharing in settings. Settings - More - SAMBA Service - Start.

This will work for any device on the same network that can see Samba (Windows) network shares.

Your TV is using UPnP / DLNA rather than Samba.

The 'Happycast' app on Q10 Pro runs automatically on boot and should share all media content under /sdcard via UPnP/DLNA. This works but the problem is that any attached drive (USB or SATA) is mounted under /mnt directory, so ignored. I've just emailed HiMedia with this info as it makes having Happycast installed as a UPnP/DLNA server fairless useless.

The solution is to install an alternative UPnP/DLNA server. I've tried a couple and I like 'Pixel Media Server', free from Play Store. It has a lot of options, and most importantly will let you select the directory to share.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 12:11:43 PM »
Sounds just what I want.  Thanks futeko will give it a try tonight :)

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 12:11:52 PM »
Use SAMBA and give it free.

Already on.  Like I said I can see the drive on my windows and linux boxes..  The TV only sees the android device and only accesses the android shared dirs..  I need to find a way to share the internal drive with the android shared folders.

The SAMBA implementation is over simplified and buggy (e.g. wrong HDD size and Free space). Have multiple devices with a SAMBA (SMB/CIFS) Clients and some see all resources including Internal HDD and USB storage and others only see the internal SD storage. All these same devices see a good Samba server like Windows PC or a NAS.

Changing the client is not always an option as many devices run entirely in factory specific firmware.
Using UPnP/DLNA is not an option for many as it is picky on the type of media being shared. No DVD/BD/SACD folders or ISO's being shared that way for instance.

The real solution is implementing a fully working SAMBA Server. Should not be that difficult?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 12:21:45 PM by Nice Monkey »

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2016, 12:47:59 PM »
The SAMBA implementation is over simplified and buggy (e.g. wrong HDD size and Free space). Have multiple devices with a SAMBA (SMB/CIFS) Clients and some see all resources including Internal HDD and USB storage and others only see the internal SD storage. All these same devices see a good Samba server like Windows PC or a NAS.

Changing the client is not always an option as many devices run entirely in factory specific firmware.
Using UPnP/DLNA is not an option for many as it is picky on the type of media being shared. No DVD/BD/SACD folders or ISO's being shared that way for instance.

The real solution is implementing a fully working SAMBA Server. Should not be that difficult?

I appreciate that the Samba server could be better, and that has been fed back to HiMedia, but that's not the answer to the question posted in this thread.

The problem here is that the TV, using DLNA/UPNP, is not seeing content from Q10 Pro.

And the problem is that Q10 Pro via it's DLNA server (Happycast) is sharing /sdcard and not /mnt. It needs either an updated version of Happycast or a different DLNA server. Previous generation HiMedia products used HiDLNA, which in this case would be better.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2016, 01:21:32 PM »
The SAMBA implementation is over simplified and buggy (e.g. wrong HDD size and Free space). Have multiple devices with a SAMBA (SMB/CIFS) Clients and some see all resources including Internal HDD and USB storage and others only see the internal SD storage. All these same devices see a good Samba server like Windows PC or a NAS.

Changing the client is not always an option as many devices run entirely in factory specific firmware.
Using UPnP/DLNA is not an option for many as it is picky on the type of media being shared. No DVD/BD/SACD folders or ISO's being shared that way for instance.

The real solution is implementing a fully working SAMBA Server. Should not be that difficult?

I appreciate that the Samba server could be better, and that has been fed back to HiMedia, but that's not the answer to the question posted in this thread.

The problem here is that the TV, using DLNA/UPNP, is not seeing content from Q10 Pro.

And the problem is that Q10 Pro via it's DLNA server (Happycast) is sharing /sdcard and not /mnt. It needs either an updated version of Happycast or a different DLNA server. Previous generation HiMedia products used HiDLNA, which in this case would be better.

I can't read from the question if the TV is using a Samba client or a mere UPnP/DLNA client? I have seen TV's with NAS support via SAMBA and even NFS.
If It is using a Samba client then it may still not work as also this one has  a problem sharing /sdcard and not /mnt under unknown conditions to me.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2016, 01:26:18 PM »
The 'photos, music, videos' folders are typical of DLNA.

I'm slightly presuming that it's DLNA, but only slighty. 95% certain.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2016, 06:05:58 PM »
You can share the Android file system (so internal HDD and all attached drives) via Samba by turning on Samba sharing in settings. Settings - More - SAMBA Service - Start.

This will work for any device on the same network that can see Samba (Windows) network shares.

Your TV is using UPnP / DLNA rather than Samba.

The 'Happycast' app on Q10 Pro runs automatically on boot and should share all media content under /sdcard via UPnP/DLNA. This works but the problem is that any attached drive (USB or SATA) is mounted under /mnt directory, so ignored. I've just emailed HiMedia with this info as it makes having Happycast installed as a UPnP/DLNA server fairless useless.

The solution is to install an alternative UPnP/DLNA server. I've tried a couple and I like 'Pixel Media Server', free from Play Store. It has a lot of options, and most importantly will let you select the directory to share.

Have you actually got pixel media server to work on q10 pro? It dies not work for me

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 09:15:02 AM »
Pixel media sever runs, but after some more testing this morning the 'sda' share feature doesn't share Q10 pro internal HDD (which is located at /mnt/sda/sda1

The lack of usable DLNA (i.e. DLNA that shares anything other than the internal flash storage) has been reported to HiMedia and hopefully the will fix it. It needs the existing integrated DLNA app to be set up to share /mnt/* and not /sdcard/* as it is currently.

in the meantime, if possible, use Samba sharing for Q5/Q10 Pro internal and USB attached storage.

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 10:43:29 AM »
Pixel media sever runs, but after some more testing this morning the 'sda' share feature doesn't share Q10 pro internal HDD (which is located at /mnt/sda/sda1

The lack of usable DLNA (i.e. DLNA that shares anything other than the internal flash storage) has been reported to HiMedia and hopefully the will fix it. It needs the existing integrated DLNA app to be set up to share /mnt/* and not /sdcard/* as it is currently.

in the meantime, if possible, use Samba sharing for Q5/Q10 Pro internal and USB attached storage.

Yeah that's how I got it. My problem is I have a synology nas which has most stuff on but almost full. I have put 6tb dove in q10 until I expand nas. Kids want to watch some stuff which is on q10 hd on their tv directly which don't have kodi boxes :(  I'll either shuffle files around or get them to watch those files on main tv until problem solved :)

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2017, 09:13:42 AM »
Is there a solution for the problem now?
I too wants to share the content of the internal hdd over network using upnp.
But I have only access to the internal storage /sdcard!


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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2017, 10:18:30 AM »
This patch will create mountpoints for your storage under /sdcard and therefore allow them to be shared using HiMedia's built-in DLNA/UPNP server:

http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1421.0

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Re: Sharing internal HDD over network
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2017, 07:39:45 AM »
I tested it but the patch does not work for me?
I start the script, enter the IP, choose intall, the device reboots, wait about 2 minutes but nothing has changed?
Neither the internal hdd (/mnt/sda/sda2) nor attached usb-devices are visible.
I tested it several times.
What can I do?

(Q10 Pro, Android 5.1.1, Build HMD-1.0.0 2016-12-13.091707)

 

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