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(poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« on: May 09, 2016, 09:16:51 AM »
I've upgraded from my Popcorn A-400 to the Q10 Pro. So far I'm really impressed by this wonderful machine.

Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.

I've tested the same connection with my laptop and could easily transfer files to my NAS with 640Mbps.

Any ideas?

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2016, 09:33:40 AM »
Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.Any ideas?

I am currently doing extensive testing to use Q10 pro as a simple NAS next as a media player.
I am using the "Fantec 4-Bay USB3" as a HDD source. See attachment. This after being tipped by Alter_Schwede62 to Fantec.
The manual indicates support up to 6 TB but also 8 TB drives are detected and work correctly as expected.

The box is recognized inclusive any mix of 4 different HDD's using either MBR or GPT (2TB => 8TB). So connectivity test is OK.
The Docking Station paragraph of the HDD > 2 TB tutorial has been updated accordingly.

Regarding throughput using the included Samba Server (which has some serious flaws)  I reach between 20 MB/s (write min) and 30 MB/s (read max).
This is less than what I expected also.  The good news is that a Samba file transfer leaves ample headroom to do local activities. Tried in practice playing a full BD on another media player using Q10 Pro as the NAS and playing a second full BD on Q10 Pro itself concurrently. This setup worked. Uploads are hardly influenced  by what is done on the player which indicated multi tasking/streaming works well. For UHD and 3D-BD throughput could be a problem and was not tested yet.  A real NAS which I was using in the past failed this test (concurrent upload and playback of a BD).

LAN streaming by the way is a different spec and is about playing an UHD movie at up to 255 Mbps from an external NAS device (Read as a Samba client).


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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2016, 09:14:52 PM »
iperf test btw Q10 Pro and windows PC.


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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 10:31:06 AM »
250Mbps+ is for streaming from LAN.

Speeds will be slower for copying files to internal HDD. 140-160Mbps is actually not a bad result for an Android box. Windows PCs will always be faster because other parts of the chipset (storage and IO interface) are faster.

Here are stats for some other Android boxes copying from LAN, (from here http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/10/09/zidoo-x6-pro-android-tv-box-review/):


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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 11:18:04 PM »
I get 24-25 MB/s write speed when copying to the installed HD with wired LAN and Samba. Wifi is much slower.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 11:21:05 PM by Next »

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 10:58:23 AM »
Real user experience copy file over samba server form Windows PC to USB 3.0 attached device.

sdcard(3-17MB/s) (emmc)

Kingston ultimate 3.0 G3(16-18.5MB/s)


USB 3.0 WD 1T 2nd generation my passport

CPU Temp/Usage easy to see samba server is background process and CPU frequency is 400Mhz.


Conclusion is good speed for Android box.

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 04:31:08 PM »
I've upgraded from my Popcorn A-400 to the Q10 Pro. So far I'm really impressed by this wonderful machine.

Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.

I've tested the same connection with my laptop and could easily transfer files to my NAS with 640Mbps.

Any ideas?

Hi,

I am new to setting this up!

I have it ethernet wired from a bridged router and everything on my home theater system that has a internal HDD, is visible.
However, although the Q10 Pro is visible in computer Network - as a media player - it does not show me the internal HDD of the Q10 Pro, or the various folders on that HDD containing the Movies, TV shows etc.

How is it connected and set-up, so that I can see the Q10 Pro HDD, so I can transfer files from main computer to it?

Any help would be great.

Cheers.

Dutch

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2016, 05:33:59 PM »
I've upgraded from my Popcorn A-400 to the Q10 Pro. So far I'm really impressed by this wonderful machine.

Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.

I've tested the same connection with my laptop and could easily transfer files to my NAS with 640Mbps.

Any ideas?

Hi,

I am new to setting this up!

I have it ethernet wired from a bridged router and everything on my home theater system that has a internal HDD, is visible.
However, although the Q10 Pro is visible in computer Network - as a media player - it does not show me the internal HDD of the Q10 Pro, or the various folders on that HDD containing the Movies, TV shows etc.

How is it connected and set-up, so that I can see the Q10 Pro HDD, so I can transfer files from main computer to it?

Any help would be great.

Cheers.

You have to enable the "Samba service" (done in the in settings screen) to be able to access the Media player from your computer (the internal HDD mount is called sda1).

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 11:06:35 PM »
I've upgraded from my Popcorn A-400 to the Q10 Pro. So far I'm really impressed by this wonderful machine.

Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.

I've tested the same connection with my laptop and could easily transfer files to my NAS with 640Mbps.

Any ideas?

Hi,

I am new to setting this up!

I have it ethernet wired from a bridged router and everything on my home theater system that has a internal HDD, is visible.
However, although the Q10 Pro is visible in computer Network - as a media player - it does not show me the internal HDD of the Q10 Pro, or the various folders on that HDD containing the Movies, TV shows etc.

How is it connected and set-up, so that I can see the Q10 Pro HDD, so I can transfer files from main computer to it?

Any help would be great.

Cheers.

You have to enable the "Samba service" (done in the in settings screen) to be able to access the Media player from your computer (the internal HDD mount is called sda1).
Thanks.

Could you please point me in the right direction of how to set this up for FTP?

The SMB Share is like this....for example:

\\192.XXX.1.95\share\sda\sda1

How do I connect FTP to this, I can't seem to get it to connect....

Cheers.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2016, 11:46:02 PM by flash-gordon »

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2016, 07:08:23 AM »
I've upgraded from my Popcorn A-400 to the Q10 Pro. So far I'm really impressed by this wonderful machine.

Except when it comes to the network performance (LAN):
Whatever I do, the network speed of the Q10 Pro averages between 140-160Mbps  when copying (large) files to the internal HDD.
Since the specs mention: "Rates of 250Mbps+ for LAN streaming are achievable", I must be doing something wrong.

I've tested the same connection with my laptop and could easily transfer files to my NAS with 640Mbps.

Any ideas?

Hi,

I am new to setting this up!

I have it ethernet wired from a bridged router and everything on my home theater system that has a internal HDD, is visible.
However, although the Q10 Pro is visible in computer Network - as a media player - it does not show me the internal HDD of the Q10 Pro, or the various folders on that HDD containing the Movies, TV shows etc.

How is it connected and set-up, so that I can see the Q10 Pro HDD, so I can transfer files from main computer to it?

Any help would be great.

Cheers.

You have to enable the "Samba service" (done in the in settings screen) to be able to access the Media player from your computer (the internal HDD mount is called sda1).
Thanks.

Could you please point me in the right direction of how to set this up for FTP?

The SMB Share is like this....for example:

\\192.XXX.1.95\share\sda\sda1

How do I connect FTP to this, I can't seem to get it to connect....

Cheers.

I'm not using FTP, but as far als I know there's no out-of-the-box FTP support (yet).

My best guess is that you'll need to download and setup an app: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207730&page=27

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2016, 07:32:23 AM »
Hello
For FTP need install any FTP server from Google Play like this one.
FTP Server Ultimate
Code: [Select]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.ftpserverultimate&hl=en
Kingston ultimate 3.0 G3 connected on USB 3.0 Q10Pro  & FileZilla FTF client on windows PC


Note because of security setting of sdcard trying to accessing over FTP server maybe you get error "550 Invalid name or chroot violation".


Could you please point me in the right direction of how to set this up for FTP?

The SMB Share is like this....for example:

\\192.XXX.1.95\share\sda\sda1

How do I connect FTP to this, I can't seem to get it to connect....

Cheers.

flash-gordon

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2016, 07:57:13 AM »
Hello
For FTP need install any FTP server from Google Play like this one.
FTP Server Ultimate
Code: [Select]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.ftpserverultimate&hl=en
Kingston ultimate 3.0 G3 connected on USB 3.0 Q10Pro  & FileZilla FTF client on windows PC


Note because of security setting of sdcard trying to accessing over FTP server maybe you get error "550 Invalid name or chroot violation".


Could you please point me in the right direction of how to set this up for FTP?

The SMB Share is like this....for example:

\\192.XXX.1.95\share\sda\sda1

How do I connect FTP to this, I can't seem to get it to connect....

Cheers.

Is this FTP Server installed on the Q10 pro (via Google Play)?

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2016, 08:22:46 AM »
Is this FTP Server installed on the Q10 pro (via Google Play)?

It is a SAMBA server which is included. Access via Windows SMB / CIFS protocol and a SAMBA Client on your PC.

A good FTP server is included with ES Explorer which is for free. and can be downloaded from the Play Store.
Have it installed myself  and is includes in the PCRISTI Custom Firmware package too.
Personally prefer Total Commander as file manager  which has an optional FTP-Server also. Use it also to play music (very easy to select a bunch of albums).

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2016, 01:17:43 AM »
Is this FTP Server installed on the Q10 pro (via Google Play)?

It is a SAMBA server which is included. Access via Windows SMB / CIFS protocol and a SAMBA Client on your PC.

A good FTP server is included with ES Explorer which is for free. and can be downloaded from the Play Store.
Have it installed myself  and is includes in the PCRISTI Custom Firmware package too.
Personally prefer Total Commander as file manager  which has an optional FTP-Server also. Use it also to play music (very easy to select a bunch of albums).

OK.

I already have ES Explorer on the box, so will check it out.

Any tips for setting it up for FTP?

Thanks.

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Re: (poor?) LAN performance on the Q10 Pro
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2016, 08:02:53 AM »

I already have ES Explorer on the box, so will check it out.

Any tips for setting it up for FTP?

Thanks.

No except that "FTP Server" is labeled differently (remote support or something like it)  which may put you on the wrong leg. It did for me. Next fill in the required fields and it is a go.

 

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