New possible user ... question about .ISO's

[UHD]

Will either of these (Q5 and Q10 Pro) permit viewing of BD .ISO files from my NAS ?

If so will they support full menus ?

Also , what advantage (if any) is there to buy the Q10 Pro over the Q5 if I have a NAS already ?

Thanks for taking the time to read my post and all that reply.

p.s will be viewed on a Samsung UHD TV

[futeko.com]

Will either of these (Q5 and Q10 Pro) permit viewing of BD .ISO files from my NAS ?

If so will they support full menus ?

Also , what advantage (if any) is there to buy the Q10 Pro over the Q5 if I have a NAS already ?

Thanks for taking the time to read my post and all that reply.

p.s will be viewed on a Samsung UHD TV

Both will enable playback of BD-ISO files stored on a NAS. The previous generation Q5/Q10 4K3D would do this too.

They both support a custom menu, not full menus (see here: http://www.digihouse.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Q5-II-photo-8.jpg). This menu gives control over chapters, subtitles, language etc.

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

We don't have final final specs for Q5 Pro yet, but the only core hardware element that might be different is 8GB flash vs 16GB in Q10 Pro. Otherwise, if you are streaming from a NAS then the only advantage Q10 has over Q5 is larger front LCD.

[Nice Monkey]

They both support a custom menu, not full menus (see here: http://www.digihouse.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Q5-II-photo-8.jpg). This menu gives control over chapters, subtitles, language etc.

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

Would be interesting to know how this deals with recent Cinavia variants as being implemented by Lionsgate.
A good example is 'The Age of Adeline". This is a BD using many files for the main movie and not a single big one. They are linked via  it seems a dynamic playlist. When played on a real BD player it works just fine. When using a Media Player (even very old players) they run into a screen with a Cinavia warning. It does not mute audio like normal Cinavia warning does but it really stops there. If you do next chapter you end up anywhere within the movie.

[UHD]

Both will enable playback of BD-ISO files stored on a NAS. The previous generation Q5/Q10 4K3D would do this too.

They both support a custom menu, not full menus (see here: http://www.digihouse.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Q5-II-photo-8.jpg). This menu gives control over chapters, subtitles, language etc.

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

We don't have final final specs for Q5 Pro yet, but the only core hardware element that might be different is 8GB flash vs 16GB in Q10 Pro. Otherwise, if you are streaming from a NAS then the only advantage Q10 has over Q5 is larger front LCD.

Thank you for the info

[Feelingblue]

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

I think that new Dune Solo 4K supports full BD Menu.
And perhaps it should have a better implementation of the VXD engine compared to products like Popcorn.

In fact my choice will be one of the two, or HIMEDIA or Dune.

[futeko.com]

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

I think that new Dune Solo 4K supports full BD Menu.
And perhaps it should have a better implementation of the VXD engine compared to products like Popcorn.

In fact my choice will be one of the two, or HIMEDIA or Dune.

Will be interesting when that Dune player is available widely if it does do BR menus. I'd be surprised.

Also, it's ~ twice the likely price of Q10 Pro..

[Nice Monkey]

Will be interesting when that Dune player is available widely if it does do BR menus. I'd be surprised.

Also, it's ~ twice the likely price of Q10 Pro..

It is not allowed to implement BD menus without implementing DRM including CINAVIA. technically no problem whatsoever. It is food for lawyers not for technicians.

[looun]

No media player type device supports BD menus. Only Blu-Ray players can display full menus.

I think that new Dune Solo 4K supports full BD Menu.
And perhaps it should have a better implementation of the VXD engine compared to products like Popcorn.

In fact my choice will be one of the two, or HIMEDIA or Dune.

Will be interesting when that Dune player is available widely if it does do BR menus. I'd be surprised.

Also, it's ~ twice the likely price of Q10 Pro..

Dune Solo 4K support Full BD Engine without issues
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-networking-media-servers-content-streaming/2259138-dune-hd-solo-4k-media-player-10.html#post41688249

but:
- have only HDMI 1.4 , no full UHD
- twice  price of Q10 pro

[Nice Monkey]

Dune Solo 4K support Full BD Engine without issues
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-networking-media-servers-content-streaming/2259138-dune-hd-solo-4k-media-player-10.html#post41688249

but:
- have only HDMI 1.4 , no full UHD
- twice  price of Q10 pro

It is a cheaper design at double the price. That leaves money for lawyers. Also on that forum the same statement can be found. They use 2 different players one with and one without full menu support. If that circumvents the legal problems? Obviously going straight to the movie has its charm, but does not always work correctly with some complex/protected playlist BD's. You don't need 2 different players for that choice, a simple configurable option to ask with/without at playtime would do also.

Wait and see how that goes. I am sure Himedia will follow it in detail.

[futeko.com]

Looks like Q10 Pro and Dune 4K will end up being launched around similar time.

A few things as it stands:

• Q10 Pro is HDMI 2.0a Ultra-HD 4K 60fps.
• Dune Solo 4K is HDMI 1.4 4K 30fps (same as previous generation 2014 HiMedia Q5/Q10 4K3D).
• Q10 Pro hardware is more powerful.
• Q10 Pro runs Kodi, which is a better media management app than Zapitti.
• Q10 Pro runs Kodi, so you have access to Kodi add-ons.
• Q10 Pro uses Android OS, so you can run all Android apps.
• Q10 Pro is likely to be half the price.

BD-ISO full menus is perhaps the Dune's only selling point vs Q10 Pro.

A few players in the past have claimed BD-ISO full menus (notably RK1186 generation players) but in the real world the implementation was buggy and often unusable. This claim needs testing in the real world.!

[hdmkv]

Agree Dune isn't worth it, high price or not... just for menus? Just get me directly to the movie, thank you !

[Nice Monkey]

Agree Dune isn't worth it, high price or not... just for menus? Just get me directly to the movie, thank you !

Works for 98% of all ISO's but not always. Some BD's have a complex file/playlist structure with seamless branching between files and playback results into something weird. Do have a few of those. You can't re-mux those neither in an easy way to extract just the main movie. Burning those to a real BD-R  and playing them on a standard player obviously works just fine. This provided you have an old enough still Cinavia free BD-player, if not you may run into other problems again there.

[UHD]

Initially, do you actually need to have a HDD in the Q10 Pro (I have a QNAP NAS) or will it be fine without ?

I may add a HDD to it later if thats feasable ?

[futeko.com]

Initially, do you actually need to have a HDD in the Q10 Pro (I have a QNAP NAS) or will it be fine without ?

I may add a HDD to it later if thats feasable ?

There is no need to have a HDD in the Q10 Pro. It will work fine without.

[Nice Monkey]

Some of the advertised features for Dune are Auto-framerate and Auto-resolution. I always missed these options as my TV or AMP (QDEO) probably do a very good upscaling job?

At least i would like to have the control which component does that job and my collection is a true mix of everything.
 I see some intention for auto-framerate but auto-resolution is nowhere mentioned I think?