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Sledgehamma

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2020, 10:14:21 AM »
Do any players support Dolby Vision for local files?
No there is not. The previous reply mentions something with illegally cloned HW provided with hacked FW and sold from below the counter only.

Sure there are. The latest Nvidia Shield does support it as well as the ATV 4K and I'm playing DV profile 5 (single layer) files just fine with the ATV 4K from my NAS.
One could argue that these are streamers rather than media players, but the lines a blurry these days and the Shield can pretty much do everything that a media player can.

However "Dolby Vision support" doesn't really say much. The supported profile is very important. While profile 5 (single layer) is used for streaming content, profile 7 (dual layer) is what the UHD BD uses.
The SoC definitely supports DV. However, I don't know which profile. It could be both if the SoC is also meant for UHD BD players. While Oppo, Pioneer and Cambridge all use the same MediaTek SoC I don't know what Panasonic is using (most likely some sort of custom MediaTek SoC) and UHD BD players are not really flourishing anyways these days so its not that likely that the SoC is meant for those players.
That said, afaik Dune needs to negotiate directly with Dolby. So if they don't come to an agreement it doesn't matter if the SoC supports it or not. While they can argue for implementing profile 5 (as there are legal reasons for it), the argumentation for profile 7 will be very difficult as there is not really a legal way of playing those files.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 10:23:57 AM by Sledgehamma »

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2020, 12:33:53 PM »
the argumentation for profile 7 will be very difficult as there is not really a legal way of playing those files.
Indeed, there are no players with DV for local ISO files and they are neither expected to come. Same answer but a lot longer.

Neither do care as I don't see an appealing difference between DV, HDR10 and HDR10+ watching the same source side by side. DV is very much overhyped. But anybody is free to feel differently.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 12:40:45 PM by Nice Monkey »

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2020, 03:43:13 PM »
2 Questons:

1) Has anyone figured out what cable is needed to successfully connect an external Sate 3 HDD to this unit?

2) Are there any External 3.5" Enclosures with the correct Sata 3 connector exposed?

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2020, 03:48:11 PM »
2 Questons:

1) Has anyone figured out what cable is needed to successfully connect an external Sate 3 HDD to this unit?
Normally such Internal SATA cable is included. Flat cable of 30 cm with combined power+SATA connectors on both ends.
Is meant to be plugged straight into an Internal HDD without any enclosure.

2) Are there any External 3.5" Enclosures with the correct Sata 3 connector exposed?
External cabinets typically include power provisions and convert to USB3. Some use (also) SATA but then use E-SATA plugs (External SATA). There are SATA cable conversions for that

An alternative is using a Mounting Bay meant for PC's fitting in a standard PC slot.
Personally I just put them on top. Does not look nice, but then you should wait for the Plus model having an internal Docking.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2020, 05:09:36 AM »
the argumentation for profile 7 will be very difficult as there is not really a legal way of playing those files.
Indeed, there are no players with DV for local ISO files and they are neither expected to come. Same answer but a lot longer.

Neither do care as I don't see an appealing difference between DV, HDR10 and HDR10+ watching the same source side by side. DV is very much overhyped. But anybody is free to feel differently.

New Gen Amlogic SOCs with CoreElec MIGHT be able to play DV as well, they're working on it. HDR10+ works fine already.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2020, 02:25:25 PM »
Will the HD Pro 4K II be able to RECORD HDMI in ?

Have other Dune players with both HDMI IN/OUT been able to record from the HDMI in?

Any further info available on delivery date ?

Thanks

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2020, 09:25:12 AM »
Will the HD Pro 4K II be able to RECORD HDMI in ?

Have other Dune players with both HDMI IN/OUT been able to record from the HDMI in?
Specification:
HDMI 2.0 input: connect an external HDMI source and display it fullscreen or picture-in-picture or record to a file

As far as I know this is provided by Realtek as part of their SDK.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 01:03:02 PM by Nice Monkey »

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2020, 09:18:24 PM »
Thanks for the info.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2020, 10:31:23 AM »
I use a Logitech Harmony One universal remote and I can find the first HD Pro 4K in the Harmony database. Are the Pro 4K II remote-instructions the same as on the Pro 4K?

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2020, 12:24:11 PM »
I use a Logitech Harmony One universal remote and I can find the first HD Pro 4K in the Harmony database. Are the Pro 4K II remote-instructions the same as on the Pro 4K?
I use the Pro 4K codes with my Realbox. Presumably they are the same.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2020, 10:26:19 AM »
the lastest fw of pro 4k-II has the latest netflix fw..
can you write here what the fw version is?

I have pro 4k and have issues with netflix. but netflix on tv has no problem.. i have checked the versions.
tv has 7.3.2-3539 netflix fw
pro 4k has 6.2.2-2753

what about pro 4k II?
** forget my question..
netflix version has been fixed to 7xx but netflix doesnt play videos on pro 4k
« Last Edit: July 04, 2020, 07:14:02 PM by mdx »

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2020, 07:03:31 AM »
Dune HD Pro 4K II
Download: dune_firmware_tv175h_200710_1329_r15.dff
Changes since 200702_2252_r15:
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- This is an experimental firmware version. In case of any problems, please
  roll back to a previous version.


- New feature: Added support for 4K HDR in Netflix.

- Improvement: Improved the performamance of video stopping and TV channel
  switching.

- Improvement: Improved write performance for NTFS filesystem.

- Improvement: Changed some system settings to optimize system stability
  and fix some low-level problems.

- Improvement: Changed some internal configuration to potentially improve
  support for some formats of multichannel audio in Android apps. (This is
  only preliminary and incomplete support, to be further improved.)

- Improvement: In "Android apps" menu, some apps are now shown even when
  they are not installed yet. Also changed the order of some apps.

- Improvement: In "Android TV" menu, "Dune HD" app is now available, which
  provides another way to return to Dune HD menu.

- Improvement: In "Android TV" menu, changed the default initial list of
  favorite apps: added "Dune HD" app, changed the order of some apps. This
  change is applied only on a clean box or after settings reset.

- Improvement: When "Android TV" menu is opened for the first time, a hint
  about the possibility to use TOP MENU to return to Dune HD menu is shown.

- Improvement: In the initial setup menu, when manual configuration mode is
  used, "auto resolution" setting is now switched off by default (same as
  in automatic mode).

- Improvement: Improved the default configuration of the TV menu for some
  world regions.

- Improvement: "Dune HD" main menu item is renamed to "Dune HD
  information".

- Bugfix: Framerate was wrongly detected for some MKV VP9 video files.

- Bugfix: When using full BD Menu, a crash could happen in some cases.

- Bugfix: It was impossible to control some versions of KODI APK via IR
  remote control.

- Bugfix: When playing DASH video streams using internal player (e.g. when
  using Kartina.TV application), some garbage could be shown as part of the
  video in some cases.

- Bugfix: There could be problems with detecting and showing storages in
  "Sources" menu, and with handling of HDD with multiple partitions, HDDs
  w/o partitions, non-formatted HDDs.

- Minor other fixes and improvements.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2020, 09:02:56 AM »
As happens more often will answer my own question here, this with a lot of help from franz weber who did the real work. He had the heatsink removed to take a picture from the then naked chip.
It is now confirmed that Dune uses the RDR1619DD chip in contrary to Zidoo.

The biggest difference will be with HDR => SDR downscaling for older 1080P TV's. In general HDR should be a bit better with the VS10 HDR engine present (this may be visible or not). There might be also DV licence/SDK differences but for the remainder they are absolutely igual.

Not a big difference but good to know specifically when looking at HDR features in general and DV specifically.
The new Zidoo Z9X has RTD1619DR for sure including the Dolby Vision VS10 engine.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2020, 09:04:51 AM by Nice Monkey »

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2020, 12:01:07 PM »
Considering Realbox 4K's (weaker SoC) almost excellent HDR->SDR conversion, I highly doubt there will be any perceptible difference between DR and non-DR SoCs.
It is always better though to have a better-certified product.

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Re: Dune HD Pro 4K II
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2020, 03:05:09 PM »
Considering Realbox 4K's (weaker SoC) almost excellent HDR->SDR conversion, I highly doubt there will be any perceptible difference between DR and non-DR SoCs.
It is always better though to have a better-certified product.
The HW acceleration part of RTD1395DD and 1619DD including HDR are absolutely identical. Just the CPU/GPU are different. So the Dune HD Pro 4K II will be identical in that respect to the Realbox 4K.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2020, 03:45:17 PM by Nice Monkey »

 

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