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Author Topic: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.4 2019-05-31  (Read 102677 times)

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2019, 12:56:11 PM »

Okay, managed to find some sample 720*576 (16:9) at 25.000 FPS, MPEG Video (PAL).

In Kodi they played correctly with full screen video, with the wrapper they displayed in the 4:3 aspect ratio (black bands left & right).


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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2019, 03:10:35 PM »
[Any option that is available to me remains set. But most of the options were not available to me as they are dependent on the make/model of the television which the Q10 is connected to.
On my Samsung 4K televison, HDMI UHD is only available of HDMI1 and none of the other HDMI ports. I have my FreeSat box connected to HDMI1 and the Q10 box connected to HDMI2.
My Q10 is set to:
Colorspace - YCbCr444 8Bit (but YCbCr422 is also available)
TV HDR Mode: AUTO

I'm a great believer in leaving everything on AUTO and letting the system work things . Perhaps, in leaving the Colorspace option out of the latest firmware settings HiMedia agree with me?

Thank you for your answer. I think I managed to step a little further: under DISPLAY I setup playback at 2160p-30Hz (instead of 2160p-60Hz 4:2:0-8bit, as until now) and I could set colorspace at 4:4:4-8bit, which makes me happy. My TV set is a 4k panasonic TX-50DXU701 and all the HDR it can do is 8bit.
Any further advice, pat on the shoulder or light kick in the but is friendly appreciated.
Cheers everybody.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2019, 10:35:22 AM »
[Any option that is available to me remains set. But most of the options were not available to me as they are dependent on the make/model of the television which the Q10 is connected to.
On my Samsung 4K televison, HDMI UHD is only available of HDMI1 and none of the other HDMI ports. I have my FreeSat box connected to HDMI1 and the Q10 box connected to HDMI2.
My Q10 is set to:
Colorspace - YCbCr444 8Bit (but YCbCr422 is also available)
TV HDR Mode: AUTO

I'm a great believer in leaving everything on AUTO and letting the system work things . Perhaps, in leaving the Colorspace option out of the latest firmware settings HiMedia agree with me?
Thank you for your answer. I think I managed to step a little further: under DISPLAY I setup playback at 2160p-30Hz (instead of 2160p-60Hz 4:2:0-8bit, as until now) and I could set colorspace at 4:4:4-8bit, which makes me happy. My TV set is a 4k panasonic TX-50DXU701 and all the HDR it can do is 8bit.
Any further advice, pat on the shoulder or light kick in the but is friendly appreciated.
Cheers everybody.

I think if the TV is capable to accept HDR signal, than it's capable of 10bit also. Set back to 60Hz and check somehow (with your AVR's or TV's info button) that after you start a 23.976fps / 4K / HDR video, during playback what colorspace ond bitdepth input is proceeding.

As I've wrote before in the better case the Player will auto switch and you will get 422 and 10bit input as it is possible on 10bit for anything under 50Hz on 4K.

It's a very strange way and "workaround" to keep the GUI at 30Hz all the time, I wouldn't recommend it. The GUI supposed to set to 60Hz as it's far more natural and smooth for the eyes.

Also you can still report back here if you've got different result with the GUI set to 60Hz vs. 30Hz.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2019, 11:43:30 AM »
Somehow I think when one set the display as 2160P 60Hz, it is for all playback, not only the GUI (menu).
I had it so far set 2160P 60Hz, an averythign like 4:4:4: or 4:2:2: was "SELECTED IS NOT SUPPORTSET TO BACK"... that is YCbCr420 8bit.
If I set display like I said before at 2180P 30 HZ, I can select 4:4:4:-8bit, at 10 bit is agan "bla-bla-not support, reverting ti 420-8bit.
Not 10 bit for me, also the tv manual says only 8 bit HDR. NOT 10 bit HDR
So, I think that this setting has to do with MORE than just GUI/interface/menu...
I do not have means and other intermediary devices to esteblish colorspace during playback.
Just on png image that supposedly shows good color and written detail like it were for 4:4:4: 10 bit, but definitely it is not, according to tv's documentation.
Looking forward for more suggestions.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2019, 04:37:32 PM »
Check if your intend settings is fit HDMI 2.0a standard


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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2019, 04:49:13 PM »
Somehow I think when one set the display as 2160P 60Hz, it is for all playback, not only the GUI (menu).
I had it so far set 2160P 60Hz, an averythign like 4:4:4: or 4:2:2: was "SELECTED IS NOT SUPPORTSET TO BACK"... that is YCbCr420 8bit.
If I set display like I said before at 2180P 30 HZ, I can select 4:4:4:-8bit, at 10 bit is agan "bla-bla-not support, reverting ti 420-8bit.
Not 10 bit for me, also the tv manual says only 8 bit HDR. NOT 10 bit HDR
So, I think that this setting has to do with MORE than just GUI/interface/menu...
I do not have means and other intermediary devices to esteblish colorspace during playback.
Just on png image that supposedly shows good color and written detail like it were for 4:4:4: 10 bit, but definitely it is not, according to tv's documentation.
Looking forward for more suggestions.

No, the Player will auto switch the output frequency according to the video source, that's what "24p mode" supposed to do, when it's turned on in the Playback menu. So in the case of 23.976fps video it will auto switch from 60Hz to 23.976Hz and -presuming the best case-  from 420 to a 422 colorspace during playback. That's why it would make the whole "set the GUI to 30Hz for higher colorspace" concept needless.  So revise my suggestions and presumptions above according to this. It's a bit still strange you can't set 444 on 60Hz with 8bit, maybe it's also because fall-back compatibility regulation reasons (I've mentioned these above), as some displays won't support it. 422 on 60Hz just isn't on supported by HDMI 2.0 specifications, so that would be impossible with any setup. But on 4K / 60Hz / 10bit there's definitely no other choice than 420.

Edit: and like I've mentioned before, we have no clarification yet, that to what colorspace and bitdepth variation will the Player auto-switch during the Playback from various previous GUI settings. It's what one must experiment on by their selfes. It's just a presumption that -also- the best case could happen, and the switching will always result in the highest possible settings variation. In your case, settings from the GUI's 60Hz / 420 / 8bit could also end up in e.g. 23.976Hz / 444 / 8bit during Playback. And even if you set 30Hz / 444 / 8bit for the GUI, it could switch back to 23.976Hz / 422 (or even 420) / 8bit during playback. That's what we still need to clear out, as there's still not so much relevant user info is published since.

Secondly: I still recommend the 10bit option -at least- to try out on whatever colorspace is it still accepted with your TV.
e.g.  My TV is a 2014 FHD modell, and it's panel is also only 8bit, but it can accept and "convert" 10bit input. So I can set 1080p / 60Hz / 10bit too for the GUI.  Maybe worth to check out on your's too (But still also keep under consideration my previous post regarding TV's bitdepth "favor" and find what's works with the best PQ results for you).
« Last Edit: January 04, 2019, 03:19:56 AM by Mount81 »

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2019, 09:30:13 PM »
The new firmware is also present via OTA, because it is present on the official website.



http://www.himediatech.com/down.aspx?TypeId=11&FId=t14:11:4
« Last Edit: January 03, 2019, 09:33:59 PM by DMD »

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2019, 04:47:38 AM »
So, is subtitles skipping problem fixed or not. Only one person said so far the problem is fixed , sort of. Anyone else can confirm further?

What about any other problems (apart from.those already mentioned)? Anyone else already updated  can give feedback whether this is the recommended firmware.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2019, 05:22:00 AM »
A couple of other users reported on another Forum that the sub skipping bug is fixed and they didn't detected any other bugs so far.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2019, 09:08:01 AM »
Thanks for your help guyz.
1. The subtitle bug NOT present in 2.1.1 CFW after two days of watching. I will report back if I find otherwise.
2. HOW can I check what colorspace playback is my TV receiving during a movie? Is there any tool for that, the TV info button gives only resolution and frequency?
Cheers.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2019, 10:21:55 AM »
You can check colorspace and bitdepth output info with this tool linked in this post: Link

Here's a descript to what mods must made in the .bat file to get out the info and under the values you need to check out: Link




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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2019, 11:11:01 AM »
Ok, since this FW is given positive feedback, I intend to finally update from 2.08.

But I don't want to lose anything. Want to retain all my app without reinstalling. Is it ok for me to update from the settings update option instead of doing the pin method?
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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2019, 12:58:37 PM »
Is it ok for me to update from the settings update option instead of doing the pin method?

Yes, probably.

You won't cause any serious problems, possibly some instability in certain apps depending on what/how you have installed but if it so you can fix it with a clean install of 2.1.1.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2019, 03:19:05 PM »
Ok, since this FW is given positive feedback, I intend to finally update from 2.09.

But I don't want to lose anything. Want to retain all my app without reinstalling. Is it ok for me to update from the settings update option instead of doing the pin method?
updated with settings option, 2.1.0->2.1.1, like i usually do.

all is good, all is maintained.

haven't noticed any sub skipping so far.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2019, 03:33:52 PM »
The new firmware is also present via OTA, because it is present on the official website.



http://www.himediatech.com/down.aspx?TypeId=11&FId=t14:11:4

No OTA here?

 

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