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Author Topic: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.4 2019-05-31  (Read 102681 times)

Mount81

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2018, 06:00:43 PM »
And how about SD / .avi / Xvid / DivX video compatibility? These had some trouble ("Video problem" error) on some of the very previous FW's, so it will be good to know if they playback properly again...

If this feature will also get a "green pipe", I guess I will finally upgrade from 2.0.6... But I have may "oldies, but goldies" encoded in these SD formats, so any negative feedback would cancel this intention...

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2018, 11:23:09 PM »
I hope the the code: 0 3 5 1 is still working to get them back. Anyone tested it yet?

Yes, the "Video color space & HDMI deep cplor"  cheat-code still works  :). The options reappear in the Android menu and remain after a re-boot also.
Good info. In 2.0.6 all other options (4:4:4 and 4:2:2) were NOT SUPPORTED, and coming back to 4:2:0 8bit.
Do these options now remain set, are compatible?

Mount81

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2019, 07:43:06 AM »
I managed to find one video pal 720x576 mpeg file, it did not display the aspect ratio correctly.

Was it a 16:9 or a 4:3 aspect ratio video?

I guess that the problem in the case of 16:9 / 720x576 pixel videos is that the Player doesn't detect correctly that it's anamorphic and that it should be displayed as 16:9, and rather stickily forces it into the 4:3 aspect ratio display. It should be communicated in details towards HiMedia to get acknowledge regarding the cause of the issue.

But I guess the "trick" to set the Aspect Ratio in the Settings to "Full Screen" still solves this problem, doesn't it?
 

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2019, 09:13:27 AM »

Was it a 16:9 or a 4:3 aspect ratio video?

Good point, the sample file I used was 3742 kb/s, 720*576 (4:3), at 25.000 FPS, MPEG Video (PAL).

It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around. And yes you can expand to full screen.


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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2019, 10:31:02 AM »
And how about SD / .avi / Xvid / DivX video compatibility? These had some trouble ("Video problem" error) on some of the very previous FW's, so it will be good to know if they playback properly again...

If this feature will also get a "green pipe", I guess I will finally upgrade from 2.0.6... But I have may "oldies, but goldies" encoded in these SD formats, so any negative feedback would cancel this intention...

someone con feedback this ,please?
im interested too....

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2019, 12:43:12 PM »

Was it a 16:9 or a 4:3 aspect ratio video?

Good point, the sample file I used was 3742 kb/s, 720*576 (4:3), at 25.000 FPS, MPEG Video (PAL).

It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around. And yes you can expand to full screen.
This is the usual problem that HiMedia does not want to solve, already discussed here:
http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=2576.0

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2019, 01:45:24 PM »

Good point, the sample file I used was 3742 kb/s, 720*576 (4:3), at 25.000 FPS, MPEG Video (PAL).

It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around. And yes you can expand to full screen.
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The other option is to use Kodi VideoPlayer ("play using") as it seems to be able to handle older SD/DVD rips ok. 
This can also be set up in "playercorefactory" settings so that "wrapper" handles all HD files 720p and above and Kodi handles lower resolutions.  There were instructions provided in this forum in another thread, some time ago.

Mount81

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2019, 01:45:31 PM »

Was it a 16:9 or a 4:3 aspect ratio video?

Good point, the sample file I used was 3742 kb/s, 720*576 (4:3), at 25.000 FPS, MPEG Video (PAL).

It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around. And yes you can expand to full screen.

If it was in 4:3 aspect ratio originally, than it may have been displayed correctly. This is how a 4:3 video should look like on a 16:9 display: http://www.taudio.com/tripod_images/graphics/aspectDiagram_2.jpg -> If the black borders weren't any thicker or thinner, than it was correct. Was it like this?
And as far as I know, this issue only concerns the 16:9 aspect ratio 720x576 videos.


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It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around.
->You mean there were also black bars on the top and on the bottom? That's than also incorrect. It should have the bars only on the left and the right sides.  (Except if the top-bottom black bars are originally encoded in the video.) :???
 

 
« Last Edit: January 01, 2019, 01:55:05 PM by Mount81 »

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2019, 02:34:41 PM »
I hope the the code: 0 3 5 1 is still working to get them back. Anyone tested it yet?

Yes, the "Video color space & HDMI deep cplor"  cheat-code still works  :). The options reappear in the Android menu and remain after a re-boot also.
Good info. In 2.0.6 all other options (4:4:4 and 4:2:2) were NOT SUPPORTED, and coming back to 4:2:0 8bit.
Do these options now remain set, are compatible?

Any option that is available to me remains set. But most of the options were not available to me as they are dependent on the make/model of the television which the Q10 is connected to.
On my Samsung 4K televison, HDMI UHD is only available of HDMI1 and none of the other HDMI ports. I have my FreeSat box connected to HDMI1 and the Q10 box connected to HDMI2.
My Q10 is set to:
Colorspace - YCbCr444 8Bit (but YCbCr422 is also available)
TV HDR Mode: AUTO

I'm a great believer in leaving everything on AUTO and letting the system work things . Perhaps, in leaving the Colorspace option out of the latest firmware settings HiMedia agree with me?


Mount81

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2019, 03:35:54 PM »
I'm a great believer in leaving everything on AUTO and letting the system work things . Perhaps, in leaving the Colorspace option out of the latest firmware settings HiMedia agree with me?

If it would really work in "auto mode" for all users and for all the different displays they have, also switching every time for the best available Colorspace and bitdepth option for the videos in respect of the previously listed variables, I would agree.

Sadly it's appear to be a bit more complicated. At first, we don't even know yet in what Colorspace and bitdepth will the Player really switch during video playback (and after freque switching).  60 and 50Hz has different Colorspace "sweetpoints" than anything under 50HZ (like 23.976Hz). And there's a huge scatter how different type of TV's and Projectors will perform better PQ concerning the Bitdepth settings (difference that mostly visible in band toning and dithering). Some top-out at 10bit, some can do even better with 12bit and some still "prefer" more the 8bit input (and in many cases also regardless of the TV's bitdepth specification).  That's why we need these settings and to be able to experiment with them, to find the best setting suitable for our display, mostly because the uncertainty regarding of the Players real operation described in the presumptions detailed under: 

So there are no common "safe-to-say" settings that would result in the best possible PQ in every cases and for every one.

Presuming the "best case" : For every video under 50Hz the Player would switch either to 422 (to avoid 444 incompatibility with many displays not capable) and keep the bitdepth setting as it was.

In the lamer cases: It will switch to 420 and also change / reduce the bitdepth from what is originally configured in the settings.   
« Last Edit: January 02, 2019, 04:05:30 AM by Mount81 »

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2019, 05:38:44 PM »

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It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around.
->You mean there were also black bars on the top and on the bottom? That's than also incorrect. It should have the bars only on the left and the right sides.  (Except if the top-bottom black bars are originally encoded in the video.) :???

Yes, there were black bars on the top and bottom & black bars on the left and right.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2019, 04:14:34 AM »

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It displayed like a window in the middle of the screen, with black bands all around.
->You mean there were also black bars on the top and on the bottom? That's than also incorrect. It should have the bars only on the left and the right sides.  (Except if the top-bottom black bars are originally encoded in the video.) :???

Yes, there were black bars on the top and bottom & black bars on the left and right.

Are you sure, that the bars were not encoded in the video? Than it appears to be a new bug again. So far it only concerned the 16:9 videos. On 2.0.6 at least the bug with 16:9 SD PAL video is already present, but with 4:3 aspect ratio videos it's still working fine. But still needs reassurance, so I will update later with some samples for anyone who would like to test it.

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2019, 10:00:36 AM »
Here's a pack, with 2 video samples included for testing the SD video compatibility and the 4:3 aspect ratio.

Thanks!

 

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Re: OFFICIAL Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. FUTEKO. HMD-2.1.1 2018-12-24
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2019, 11:19:12 AM »
Here's a pack, with 2 video samples included for testing the SD video compatibility and the 4:3 aspect ratio.

Thanks!

Yes both videos played correctly with black bars on the left & right, as you would expect in 4:3 aspect ratio. There is no difference between the Kodi player and the wrapper when displaying these videos.

If anyone has a sample 16:9  720x576 Video file I can test that also.

 

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