Q10 PRO FIRMWARE. 1.0.7-FUTEKO-EN. HMD-1.0.7 2016-08-10.190824

[hdmkv]

Watched 2 3D ISO's all the way yesterday and noticed microstutters about half a dozen times in each. While they seem more subtle than w/previous f/w's as some have reported, there's still noticeable even when trying to enjoy the movie & not really keeping at eye out for them.

The other unaddressed issue than annoys me is the slim rough left edge in most movies. Most may not notice this as TV's usually have at least 2-3% overscan and edges are hidden, but with front projectors, any edge artifacts are noticeable.

It is only 3D content where 23.976 does not output correctly in firmware 1.0.7. 3D is output at 24Hz so you will get the occasional stutter. HiMedia are aware of this and will fix it.

Is the left edge problem also 3D only?

Hi ., on most 3D, don't think on 2D. Here's a screenshot of the issue (not present in previous-gen Q5/Q10)...

[OlivierQC]

you told us that it was normal after you are checked with other devices (NUC for example..)

yes, It is visible with 2D

[Linuxx]

Futeko have you checked the file that I linked to you?

[trykkertor]

hi trykkertor......can you try out the video playback quality using kodi ?

Yes. Last night I tried.
Kodi
HiMedia-player
Kodi Wrapped
Kodi Wrapped to HiMedia

All the same Black Crush, lack of sharpness, ghosting in image, and color banding.

I also tried letting Q10 Pro do 2160 output, and then 1080 output.
Still the same. My Q10 Pro has quite a "poor" picture quality compared to my really old Ryan PlayOn.

[futeko.com]

Just downloaded now.

Will have a look at it tomorrow AM. Too busy today, sorry.

[Linuxx]

No problem man! Let me know. 

[aleister]

@trykkertor

Which HDMI Color Output Settings do you set in your Q10 Pro ?...youre talking about crushed Blacks....

I have a great Picture Quality and can compare it with the internal Player of my Panasonic DXW784 or Blurayplayer or Popcornhour,  no Problem with Q10pro.
I use ycpbr 4:4:4:4 10 Bit 2160 24p

[hdmkv]

you told us that it was normal after you are checked with other devices (NUC for example..)

yes, It is visible with 2D

This is a different issue. With my i3 NUC using MVC build and my Q5 4K3D (previous-gen), the rough left edge w/video noise isn't there ... with Q5/Q10 Pro, it is. Anyone with a projector should be able to see this.

[OlivierQC]

@hdmkv,

ok, and did you have sent a message to Himedia ?

[hdmkv]

Yes, a while back... and in beta testers bug/issue tracker spreadsheet. Not sure HiMedia is monitoring anymore. . is our best hope for action .

[OlivierQC]

about microstutters with ISO 3D, i watched several movies ISO 3D the last 2 days and honestly  they are very discreet in my opinion.

Yes, . is our last hope 

[trykkertor]

@trykkertor

Which HDMI Color Output Settings do you set in your Q10 Pro ?...youre talking about crushed Blacks....

I have a great Picture Quality and can compare it with the internal Player of my Panasonic DXW784 or Blurayplayer or Popcornhour,  no Problem with Q10pro.
I use ycpbr 4:4:4:4 10 Bit 2160 24p

I've tried them all. RGB 4:4:4 8bit, 10 bit, YCBR 4:4:4 8 and 10 bit. 2160, 1080. All of them.

It's not actually "crushed" blacks. But details in a dark suit, leather jacket or so disappears.
If I boost up brightness under settings, the details reappear, but the overall picture then gets pale.
Also get color banding, and slight ghosting of the picture.
Compared to my Ryan PlayON, the Q10 gives a poorer picture, and the PlayON comes out way sharper, more detailed, less colorbanding and more "pop" in the picture.
 

[hdmkv]

about microstutters with ISO 3D, i watched several movies ISO 3D the last 2 days and honestly  they are very discreet in my opinion.

Agreed... but, it's one of those things, once you start noticing microstutters, you can't un-notice them. Think HiMedia is very close making Q10 Pro just about as good as it can get.

[SSThing]

Yes, . is our last hope 

Save us Obi-Wan Futeko, you`re our only hope!

[futeko.com]

Now I can't test it because in doubt of probable defects today I returned the box to amazon and buy it again when I will receive the refund. Anyway I tried yesterday with a 1080p movie at 23,976 fps without judder but with a movie at 25 fps judder was present. Box settings is at 720p at 50hz. I want repeat that with kodi there's no judder; only with himedia app. Here's an episode sample that I can see judder:

https://mega.nz/#!ZpVh1RBL!FLPJRxW7LJgcbT0pxkg27yNgwAV3_YTD7GRdB8p2BL0

At min 8:56.

At 8:56 I get a black screen for a couple of seconds. I get the same when playing it on a PC, so it's a problem with the video.