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LeFric · « **on:** May 23, 2016, 11:30:55 PM »

I shall report the resolutions offered by the HiMedia Q10 Pro (with the firmware HMD-1.0.1 2016-03-22.170326) in SDR, DOLBY and HDR 10 along the JVC DLA-RS500E:

If you activate the HDMI auto adaptation, wherever it is, we went to 1080p/60Hz - YCbCr444 - 10 bits.

SDR

1080p/50 y 60Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits

720p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/24Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/30Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/50Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 y 10 bits

2160p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 y 10 bits

DOLBY y HDR 10

2160p/24Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/30Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/50Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 y 10 bits

2160p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 y 10 bits

You should add to the menu of acceptance / rejection 5 seconds and the EDID of JVC is about 12 seconds and the image appear the menu has disappeared.

magnifico · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM »

looun · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2016, 12:00:19 PM »

Quote from: magnifico on May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM

Plus the Q10pro will never ever negotiate " YCbCr444 - 10 bits" as basic picture mode. That would be 4:2:0 8bits.

2160p/60Hz YCbCr444 - 10 bits is NOT support by HDMI 2.0, required more than 18 Gbit/s .

LeFric · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2016, 03:30:50 PM »

I shall report the resolutions offered by the HiMedia Q10 Pro (with the firmware HMD-1.0.1 2016-03-22.170326) in SDR, DOLBY and HDR 10 along the OLED LG 55EG920V:

If you activate the HDMI auto adaptation, wherever it is, we went to 1080p/50Hz - YCbCr444 - 10 bits.

SDR

1080p/50 y 60Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits

720p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 y 10 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/24Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/25Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/30Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/50Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 bits

2160p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 bits

DOLBY y HDR 10

2160p/24Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/25Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/30Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits

2160p/50Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 bits

2160p/60Hz

RGB444 a 8 bits
YCbCr444 a 8 bits
YCbCr422 a 8 bits
YCbCr420 a 8 bits

EYE! Being a native 10-bit panel 4k all that is synchronized to 8 bits as I have shown above ...

magnifico · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2016, 09:14:14 PM »

Quote from: looun on May 25, 2016, 12:00:19 PM

Quote from: magnifico on May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
Plus the Q10pro will never ever negotiate " YCbCr444 - 10 bits" as basic picture mode. That would be 4:2:0 8bits.

2160p/60Hz YCbCr444 - 10 bits is NOT support by HDMI 2.0, required more than 18 Gbit/s .

Since Q10Pro wants to show HDR....it needs HDMI2.0a

As you can see...10BIT is BELOW 18GBps!
My cable:

looun · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2016, 10:05:51 AM »

Quote from: magnifico on May 25, 2016, 09:14:14 PM

As you can see...10BIT is BELOW 18GBps!

where ?
2160p/60Hz YCbCr444 - 10 bit need TMDS 22,28 Gbit/s , HDMI 2.0a it's limited up 18 Gbit/s .

same time you are boring

magnifico · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2016, 12:05:01 PM »

If tmds is the number to go allmighty looun...
WHY ARE CABLES CERTIFIED @18GBPS???

looun · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2016, 01:04:07 PM »

Quote from: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 12:05:01 PM

If tmds is the number to go allmighty looun...
WHY ARE CABLES CERTIFIED @18GBPS???

18GBPS = HDMI 2.0a

> 18GBPS = HDMI 2.1 or maybe HDMI 2.2 there is not standard yet

ALL new UHD blu ray disc are MAX at 2160p@23,976Hz YCbCr420 - 10 bit !

there are not any content at 422, 442 444 ....

magnifico · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2016, 04:50:03 PM »

This is NO ANSWER to my question....just bla bla numbers bla bla!
PANASONIC UB900 outputs even 12Bit HDR 4:4:4. I have people that can give prove of that!

vxsys · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2016, 07:48:51 PM »

Quote from: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 04:50:03 PM

This is NO ANSWER to my question....just bla bla numbers bla bla!
PANASONIC UB900 outputs even 12Bit HDR 4:4:4. I have people that can give prove of that!

Panasonic has the best video output and video processing.

magnifico · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2016, 12:06:26 AM »

Yeah sure....useless upscaling of 10Bit 4:2:0 to 12bit 4:4:4.
Just pumping up the bandwidth usage

Btw. Samsung does not make such a deal out of it....K8500 does output 12bit as well....

Still useless.... Anything more than 10bit 4:2:0/2 is just blowing up cables.

looun · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2016, 10:28:55 AM »

2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB requires 22.28Gbps.
(3840+560) x (2160+90) x 60 (fps) x 30 (color depth) x 10/8 = 22.275Gbps

22.275Gb/s is more than is currently supported by HDMI 2.0, confirmed by wesk05 ( technical very expert , i reference for kodi forum. ) http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888&pid=2346989#pid2346989

end of the story , post must me closed.

LeFric · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM »

You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.

looun · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2016, 08:18:59 PM »

Quote from: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM

You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.

how?
Do you have a TRUE 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB video?
i don't think ,so what do you have test?

"VELOX UHD cables deliver a verified 18 Gb/s HD signal for higher resolutions" not 22.275Gbps, because HDMI 2.0a can not like write noggin and wesk05

for me this post is a spam! also there are not any content at YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB

LeFric · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2016, 08:39:04 PM »

Through a GeForce GTX 980 DCP film bag ...

P.D.: In the previous post I made a mistake being so: 2160p60 12-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB