Proposal for Framerate Switching and Resolution Switching

[Alter_Schwede62]

Hello Futeko and Himedia

I am thinking since many weeks about this theme, and I got a result.

I think, first, that Autoframerate Switching should detect the framerate of a movie only by the checking the Framerate of the header's videofile and output the Hz.
So for Autoframerate Switching the Software should only detect the Framerate in the header of a video file, and then set the framerate of this movie, without looking at any resolution. So we always have the corret framerate for the movie.

Second I think, that there should be created an Auto Resolution Switching and a fix Resolution detection resp. Output.
If you choose Fix Resolution, as you now can do, ALL source resolutions should be upscaled but too downscaled (f.e. From UHD to HD) by the Himediaplayer Hardware and beeing outputted in the wished resolution.
If you choose Auto Resolution, the Himediaplayer Hardware according to the resolution does nothing, it passes the resolution throug to the TV, and the TV upscales and downscales the material. Perhaps some day a very good TV does the Up/Downscaling better, than the HiMediaplayer. I don't know.

So for all times Framerate Autoswitching could be solved, no matter, what resolution is detected and what else the future brings.

If there too will be an Auto Resolution could be created, everybody could choose, which engine should upscale resp. Downscale and output the wished  resolution.

But this only is a proposal.
Thanx.

[Nice Monkey]

What is described here is exactly what is claimed by the new Dune 4k Solo media player. Both are specified specifically and separately.
Saw some reporting on the player by new owners, but nothing about these features. Also Dune 4k Solo has many initial bugs needing fixing.

The full Auto-Framerate switching would be great as many of us have a huge mix of European and US original DVD's and BD's based media material. Don't see any real disadvantages to it even as permanent (=standard) feature except that some TV's might not be able to handle some framerates. So it must be configurable, but ON/OFF should do the trick.

The practical  value of Auto-Resolution switching has to show itself. With it one can choose indeed which component is going to do the upscaling  (Media player => Receiver => TV). Q10 Pro does a good job here so if it is worth the effort? It always needs to be a configurable option, probably with multiple parameters. It is far more complicated that auto-framerate.
I do expect also some side-effects as Output resolutions now will be changed inflight and frequently which may be confusing or just cause new additional problems. Think also about WCG, HDR and Deep Color etc which all must be up/down scaled all the way correctly too depending on component capabilities.

[dungnick]

I also share the good idea of having an option to let the media player only pass through resolution to the TV (for the TV to upscale). You're right that many TVs nowadays have extremely good upscaling capability.

I hope Futeko/Himedia will implement this.

[vdevil]

I hope too its fixed because i can't use my all mkv collection ( only fullscreen not cropper work ) with this player i need to keep my Dune 3.0 at this time i have put the player in his box and i'm waiting the new firmware with this fixed !

[looun]

I also share the good idea of having an option to let the media player only pass through resolution to the TV (for the TV to upscale). You're right that many TVs nowadays have extremely good upscaling capability.

I hope Futeko/Himedia will implement this.

there is NOT a player have this function "passthrough resolution", also kodi team have abandoned it, there are too many variable and HDMI have some restriction. There is a good thread on kodi forum about this.

[Nice Monkey]

there is NOT a player have this function "passthrough resolution", also kodi team have abandoned it, there are too many variable and HDMI have some restriction. There is a good thread on kodi forum about this.

Full auto-framerate is still a good idea and worthwhile. It is more or less claimed by Himedia. Agreed auto-resolution most likely brings more problems than goodies.

But see http://dune-hd.com/eng/products/full_hd_media_players/48 where at least one currently being sold product claims this capability. See under specifications and next open other features. Quote:
- Auto framerate: Output video with original framerate to ensure absolute smooth playback for all kinds of content
- Auto resolution: Get maximum possible video quality when connecting to advanced TV / video processing equipment
This and next Full BD-menu (reported to be functional)  are unique thus far for that Dune product.

[Alter_Schwede62]

there is NOT a player have this function "passthrough resolution", also kodi team have abandoned it, there are too many variable and HDMI have some restriction. There is a good thread on kodi forum about this.

However, I would like to have that with my Q10 Pro, and as it seems, Dune shows, that it is possible.

But Full Auto Framerate Switching or even only Full Framerate Passthrough should be possible.

[Nice Monkey]

However, I would like to have that with my Q10 Pro, and as it seems, Dune shows, that it is possible.

Claiming a feature and having it working accordingly is not the same thing. It is expensive enough to scream loud when it does not work according specs. Wait and see

[looun]

there is NOT a player have this function "passthrough resolution", also kodi team have abandoned it, there are too many variable and HDMI have some restriction. There is a good thread on kodi forum about this.

However, I would like to have that with my Q10 Pro, and as it seems, Dune shows, that it is possible.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=64139&pid=1752805#pid1752805

[hardcort]

there is NOT a player have this function "passthrough resolution", also kodi team have abandoned it, there are too many variable and HDMI have some restriction. There is a good thread on kodi forum about this.

However, I would like to have that with my Q10 Pro, and as it seems, Dune shows, that it is possible.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=64139&pid=1752805#pid1752805

Hi There

If there is a limitation it should be related only to kodi or to android, because the software that hi-media uses to play Media (the wrapper) could resolve this issue.
My 8 Year old TVIX M6500 does this very good indeed, and my Pioneer Kuro shows Pure Cinema ( 24fps) active for every Movie with 23,976FPS

Thank you
Best Wiches

[looun]

If there is a limitation it should be related only to kodi or to android, because the software that hi-media uses to play Media (the wrapper) could resolve this issue.
My 8 Year old TVIX M6500 does this very good indeed, and my Pioneer Kuro shows Pure Cinema ( 24fps) active for every Movie with 23,976FPS

what's meens  " limitation it should be related only to kodi or to android" ?

I also share the good idea of having an option to let the media player only pass through resolution to the TV (for the TV to upscale). You're right that many TVs nowadays have extremely good upscaling capability.

I hope Futeko/Himedia will implement this.

he talking about to upscale video resolution: "passthrough resolution to the TV (for the TV to upscale)",  not Pure Cinema ( 24fps)  or  23,976FPS .

[Alter_Schwede62]

Looun. i am talking of both.
Why only alway give a part of all?
Lets take all, Autoswitching, fixed Hz, and Passthrough.
Same for resolution, Autoswitching, Up/Downscaling and Passthrough, fini. 

[Next]

I would much prefer if it was possible to select 24 and 25 Hz manually. The built in player doesn't support as much as Kodi, so as long as HiMedia only adds support to the built in player/wrapper I will still have to watch a lot of my material in 60 Hz.