The Dune HD Real/Pro/Max Vision 4K detailed review

[Nice Monkey]

Updated "Which brand media player to select" and moved it to Appendix-B as it is not integral part of the review.

The last FW in fact synchronized all feature for the last 3 generations Dune Players since 2018 which I regards as excellent support.

[Nice Monkey]

Giving this one a try:
dune_firmware_tv175u_220115_0258_r20.dff
Change list looking promising. It is mostly a bugfix release. Recommended for previous Alpha FW users.

Did a quick check and update of my lists in Appendix-A:
Please correct me where I am wrong.

[Nice Monkey]

Got a test FW to validate the reported problems with playing BD Menus smoothly. The problem seems to be resolved as they now play as fluent as using my OPPO.
It was reported by Zidoo as a bug only occurring with Vision Series models specifically and not with older generations.

Updated the header of the review, reference(s) to this problem and and also the Guide for player selection accordingly. I regard this a mayor improvement for those playing BD ISO's/Folders with Full Menu.
You will need to wait for the next FW update to include the fix.

[Mike-UK]

New GUI: In Movies/TV Shows sections, when the cursor is in the left panel, "ENTER" button now opens "Show All" screen for this row (to move to the right panel, use "RIGHT" button).

ok this is doing my head in now, why cant i get to "all wall" in a single click ??

[Nice Monkey]

@Mike-UK
I think they feel their default appeals to more customers? A preference option would be nice.

Updated the brand selection advice Appendix-B now including music streaming services.
Maybe I should create a specific Topic for this Appendix instead?

[Mike-UK]

yay im happier now with the Dune,

New GUI: In Movies/TV Shows sections, when the cursor is in the left panel, "ENTER" button now opens "Show All" screen for this row (to move to the right panel, use "RIGHT" button)

after flashing with this FW this wasnt working it just moved me over to the right and i still had to scroll 9 movies, but for some reason it is now working , its just down 3 times and click and im at "all wall" no idea why it just started to work odd

[Nice Monkey]

There must be more that 16 entries for Enter to trigger Full Screen mode.
Suggested to change this in the next FW for consistent behavior.

[karipu]

If I have understood right: Vision players can’t play native DSD music in any way; instead they allways convert to PCM?

[Nice Monkey]

There is no Android player from any brand (yet) supporting native DSD via HDMI. If it ever comes?
Dune supports DSD => PCM also for MCH which is an exception. Most do 2CH only.

Native 2CH DSD via additional DAC panels with HiFi models is supported by all good brands.

[karipu]

And you can’t attach an USB drive to the Vision players and play native DSD files from there (without converting to PCM ?

[Nice Monkey]

Where the file resides does not matter and neither the format ISO, DSF or DFF as the player will always convert these all to PCM automatically realtime during the actual playback.

[Nice Monkey]

Updated to this one:
dune_firmware_tv175u_220209_0257_r20.dff
It is a combined feature and bugfix release. it included the improvement for playing BD Menus smoothly. Recommended for Alpha FW users.

Did a quick check and update of my lists in Appendix-A:
Please correct me where I am wrong.
My problem list is getting remarkably short which is very good news.

[cachotronco]

The novelty of being able to sort My Collection by date, name and year, doesn't quite convince me.

When they add the option to see the characteristics of the files as others do, I will break out a good wine.
I don't understand what great difficulty that entails.

[Nice Monkey]

Updated the Zappiti chapter in Appendix-B. Regard it a Dune with a Zappiti unique layer on top for the HW builds, its GUI and MovieWall Client/Server implementations. I conclude this from recent FW updates coming from both Dune and Zappiti.

I also feel Dune accelerated their FW development (quantity and quality) since the recent new Zappiti models appeared.

[campus]

Hallo I have a "Dune HD PRO Vision 4K Solo" with inside (SATA 3.5" internal slot) a Seagate 18 TB X18 and I connect it, to load files, to my Windows 10 Pro notebook PC by SMB (ethernet LAN 1 Gbps). What do you suggest as file system to format the X18 and why? Which is better for files and data reliability and integrity? How (by which software) is better to format the disk? Dune can not format it (gives error: probably 18 TB is too big for today dune format app. My firmware version is "211224_0317_r17"). Please explain in a detailed techical way. What file system do you adopt?
Thank you very much.