Maximum size of 7200Rpm HDD for Q10

[laager]

Greetings guys...May I know the maximum capacity HDD 7200 rpm, that can fit into the HiMedia Q10.?

I use Seagate ST16000NM001G Exos X16 16TB 3.5" SATA 512e/4Kn Enterprise Hard Drives. They work well. The 7200rpm rotational speed is slightly beneficial when doing USB 3.0 transfers as it is easy to achieve 250MB/s+ with them.

However, for playback, any rotational speed drive will suffice.

I use a 5A brick type power supply.

[cutefix]

I use Seagate ST16000NM001G Exos X16 16TB 3.5" SATA 512e/4Kn Enterprise Hard Drives. They work well. The 7200rpm rotational speed is slightly beneficial when doing USB 3.0 transfers as it is easy to achieve 250MB/s+ with them.

  16 Terabyte ... really ..? Is it not too thick  HDD  that it won't fit the HIMEDIA Q10 pro?  Is it 7200rpm rotational speed..? Did younot get any problems with the weak powersupplyof this q10 pro.. I had  problems previously with 7200 rpm thats why someone advised me to get the 5400.. But I  found out that the reading speed of 5400 is not as fast as 7200 rpm in my himedia... there is a slight difference reading speed  of few seconds ....
May I know how much is the price of a 16 TB HDD in USD?

[nandish]

I haven't checked it, but if the Q10 pro supports GPT partition tables, I think even a 16TB disk should work. I do not have such a large disk. My drive has a capacity of 3TB.

[laager]

Is it not too thick?

No. Standard 3.5" HDD dimensions.

Is it 7200rpm rotational speed..?

Yes

Did you not get any problems with the weak power supplyof this q10 pro..?

After I changed to the 5A brick type power supply all power problems vanished.

May I know how much is the price of a 16 TB HDD in USD?

Probably around $830. Look on Google.

[cutefix]

Hi Laager,

 I  thought that the more the capacity of the  HDD  it will  become thicker so that my thinking so its a self limiting factor that make some sense  when  other said the  himedia q10 is limited  to 6 tb due to  such size  limitation..
 I  am not quite  familiar about drives  with bigger capacity nor was  it  proven to  actually fit the HIMEDIA Q10 hdd compartment.
Further  you said that replacing the power supply  of the Q10 with 5A  sorted out the   power  supply problem so it can run faster than 5400 RPM speed  drives. But as I  see it  the Q10 power supply is non detachable from the unit,, So how did  you replace the power supply for  you himedia q10.
I am interested to  hear more about your  insight and familiarity with the Himedia Q10. 

[laager]

Further  you said that replacing the power supply  of the Q10 with 5A  sorted out the power supply problem so it can run faster than 5400 RPM speed  drives. But as I  see it  the Q10 power supply is non detachable from the unit...

A 7200rpm drive will work on the standard power supply. However, some 7200rpm drives draw more power than others. As you increase the HD capacity, the current draw usually increases slightly. However, you want a power supply that can feed the internal HD and any accessory connections (i.e. USB3) simultaneously. The standard power supply struggles when the Q10 Pro has many demands.

See here:

https://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=4680.msg30495#msg30495

[cutefix]

The standard power supply struggles when the Q10 Pro has many demands. 

So you mean the 12 volt 2A power supply  is insufficient if all the  Himedia  Q10 usb outlets  plus the  HDMI are used  ?
If supposing I had a 7200 rpm drive at 6 TB and only the HDMI cable is being connected would  it still run smoothly  if the  drive is already above half capacity?
How about if the 6tb  5400 rpm HDD is nearly full , would the 12 V 2 A power supply still suffice to run it smoothly?
I am asking as based from past experience with HDD failure I used the same power supply with the 3 TB  7200 rpm HDD in this HImedia  , that was 3/4 full of movies when it failed , when the hard drive doesnot respond anymore ..Which upon checking  by running the drive in an enclosure  using a laptop with usb 3.0 cable and slot will not run similarly.
Do you have any idea what would be the specification for a powerful power supply that  can maximize the power load of the q10 but not overloading it?

[nandish]

Changing the power supply to a more powerful one is not entirely the solution to the problem. In addition to the power supply, on the Q10 pro motherboard, there are also additional power supply systems for individual components (3.5 'SATA drive, USB sockets, processor, etc.). The power of these systems is also important. If the disk draws more power, the motherboard has more loaded elements powering it. It also matters.

[cutefix]

Changing the power supply to a more powerful one is not entirely the solution to the problem. In addition to the power supply, on the Q10 pro motherboard, there are also additional power supply systems for individual components (3.5 'SATA drive, USB sockets, processor, etc.). The power of these systems is also important. If the disk draws more power, the motherboard has more loaded elements powering it. It also matters. 

Hi Nandish.. My Himedia Q10 is  only connected by HDMI  cable  via  arc,  Its  USB slots are not used to  focus  more on the  drawing power of the HDD for the   power supply... So I want to verify would  replacing the 12 volt 2A power supply be a good  solution, supposing and almost full  6 tb 5400 RPM  or  7200 rpm  HDD would draw  more  power?
I don't want my HDD to fail .. Do youhave  any idea what is  the  maximum amount of  file that can  be put  into the 6tb HDD  that will still run comfortably in the HI  MEDIA Q10?.. if the formatted  capacity of the 6tb  is 5.500 tb. would  it  be okay if  the remaining free  hdd space  is just 500 mb left?

[nandish]

cutefix, my rule is that I never completely fill a formatted partition. I am always left with 500MB of free space. The operating system then works more efficiently and lighter on the disk load. Use the entire disk for the movies partition, but, as I wrote, do not fill this formatted partition completely, leave 0.5TB of free space and it will be fine. If you are not actually using the USB ports (especially USB 3.0), you can only replace the power supply with a more powerful one and use the 7200 RPM disk (it will make a lot more noise and heat up). Still, I recommend drives from NAS, 5400 rpm. Greetings

[cutefix]

cutefix, my rule is that I never completely fill a formatted partition. I am always left with 500MB of free space. The operating system then works more efficiently and lighter on the disk load. Use the entire disk for the movies partition, but, as I wrote, do not fill this formatted partition completely, leave 0.5TB of free space and it will be fine. If you are not actually using the USB ports (especially USB 3.0), you can only replace the power supply with a more powerful one and use the 7200 RPM disk (it will make a lot more noise and heat up). Still, I recommend drives from NAS, 5400 rpm. Greetings ....

Thanks Naandish for  that information... Iam  glad you  clarified that a drive should not be filled to the  brim..las  time I  only left 250 mb ....Have a nice day, keep  safe,,,,.

[laager]

So you mean the 12 volt 2A power supply is insufficient if all the Himedia Q10 usb outlets plus the HDMI are used  ?

That is my experience.

If supposing I had a 7200 rpm drive at 6 TB and only the HDMI cable is being connected would  it still run smoothly if the drive is already above half capacity?

Yes.

How about if the 6tb 5400 rpm HDD is nearly full, would the 12V 2A power supply still suffice to run it smoothly?

Yes. How much data is stored on the drive makes no meaningful difference to how much power the drive consumes.

Do you have any idea what would be the specification for a powerful power supply that can maximize the power load of the q10 but not overloading it?

Power supplies do not overload the Q10. The Q10 only draws how much power it needs - up to the limits of its internal circuitry.

The power supply nandish and I use is perfectly acceptable and totally excessive for use with the Q10. It simply provides clean stable power as demanded by the Q10.

[cutefix]

Hi Naandish and  Laager,, so  from  your experience  ;

12 V ,2A power  supply is MORE THAN  ENOUGH  for  the  power supply needs  of Himedia q10 regardless if you use 7200rpm or 5400 rpm HDD....

[laager]

I suspect that the only way you are going to be satisfied is if you go and obtain a degree in electrical engineering.

[stl]

So today I've made some current measurements in my Q10 Pro:
At power on when the mechanical hard drive starts spinning it reaches about 2A
During boot: 1A
With no app running: 0.6A
With the hard drive working (downloading torrents): 0.7A
With the hard drive working and playing a video file: 0.8A
With also an external unpowered 2.5 USB hard drive connected:1A

My hard drive is a 3.5" Toshiba DT01ACA050, the current consumption will vary with other hard drives.

I believe that most issues with the power supplys are caused by aging components (capacitors) and not the rating.