Dune HD Pro 4K II

[Nice Monkey]

Any plans to include the new Dune HD Pro 4K II player?

Interesting box if all specification claims are true it will beat the Zidoo Z9S not only on performance but on core functionality too.
- Best-in-class full Blu-ray menu support: support for BD-J, BD4K, BD3D, obfuscated playlists and seamless branching
- Audio file formats: MP3, MPA, M4A, AAC, WAV, WMA, FLAC, Ogg/Vorbis, WavPack, APE (Monkey's Audio), ALAC (Apple lossless), SACD ISO (stereo), SACD DSF (stereo), SACD DFF (stereo), AC3, DTS, DTS-WAV

[futeko.com]

No plans, but not ruling anything out.

I would caution that, as is often the case, it's unlikely that early firmware will be perfect.

I like their sudden emphasis on seamless branching as a way of attacking a perceived weakness of Zidoo!

It's likely that Zidoo will have other RTD1619 products at some point although I have no specific info at this stage.

[Nice Monkey]

Yeah they must have been reading my stuff as I am pushing seamless branching since a very long time. 
The seamless branching problem is most likely caused by the Realtek SDK used as the fundament making it very difficult to solve.

Asked Dune and they answered me DSD via HDMI is not coming as the RTD1619 neither supports it. But getting MCH DSD => MCH PCM is somewhat more likely as they are looking into that and claim the CPU can potentially do it. Would also be a significant step.

Was surprised by the very quick answer I got (same day).

What I see is Dune has been converting all the old Sigma goodies to RTD1295 gradually. This next to supporting Amlogic for their cheaper boxes. That took them quite some time but updates were significant and they got finally player functionally on par with Zidoo again (not Movie Wall). Maybe even with higher quality/stability using their own OS? That should also make the transition to RTD1619 easier as Android 9 and above all the Realtek SDK is just used for the Android add-ons. That might work out just fine now?

[Nice Monkey]

Interesting I see you started selling Dune again!

Dune HD RealBox 4K being its smaller brother to start with. RTD1395 does functionally the same as RTD1619 just using an older CPU/GPU. The CPU is the same as with RTD1295. The GPU is even an old ARM® Mali-470 MP4 GPU versus ARM® Mali-T820 MP3 GPU used with the RTD1295 models.

It is very shy on ports with no USB3 and no SATA at all. The mainboard power section omitted the 12V => 5V internal stabilizer and the PSU is straight 5V 2A powering that mainboard directly. USB3 can't even potentially work with that PSU for sure and even 2x 500mA for USB2 might just do? I do highly recommend using a powered USB2 hub with it when intending to use USB powered 2.5 inch HDD's with it.

The minimalist power design may have some negative impact on Video and Audio quality specifically during transitions! It is a mainboard build around the Realtek RTD1395 SOC with as few additional components as possible. That is how the box could be made that small!

It is alse running Android 7 which personally don't expect to be upgraded ever to Android 9.
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/about-android-os-versions-and-os-generations.77548/
Seen Dune using its own OS/GUI next to Android has less relevance than with other brands.

For sure still great value for money overall, but would go always for the bigger brother when using external HDD's like I do myself. 

[futeko.com]

I like new shiny things. We'd have probably continued selling the previous Dune model if not for problems with the European distributor. Apparently we were not alone in this, hence Dune are using a different distributor now.

The new Realtek chipsets look pretty good. My testing of the Zidoo:X 1619 prototype was very positive.

I've created a page for the Dune HD Pro 4K II here: https://www.futeko.com/products/MP106.php

[Nice Monkey]

Would it be possible to get the optional Dune HD BT AirMouse Remote via Futeko too?
https://www.dune-hd.com/products/dune-hd-bt-airmouse-remote
To be used with HibyMusic!

But frankly I am even more interested in a HD Pro 4K II Plus including it whenever such a model will become available.

[futeko.com]

Dune HD RealBox 4K being its cheaper brother. Does functionally the same just a bit shy on ports (no USB3 and no SATA).

Realbox 4K is perfect for anybody wanting great media performance with the Dune ecosystem on a modern chipset, compatible with modern apps, and at the lowest price possible.

Would it be possible to get the optional Dune HD BT AirMouse Remote via Futeko too?

Possible at a later date.

[futeko.com]

Should also say that we plan on selling new Zidoo 1619 products also, but we have no more info about them than is already in the public domain.

Dune Pro 4K II will be the first Realtek 1619 product available.

[OlivierQC]

as you have a Zidoo X for several weeks, tell us if the dolby vision only works for netflix, disney plus, and ... or / and for movies iso with dual layer

[futeko.com]

as you have a Zidoo X for several weeks, tell us if the dolby vision only works for netflix, disney plus, and ... or / and for movies iso with dual layer

I'm not going to give any details of the firmware or capabilities at this stage. It's up to Zidoo to give out that info when they choose.

[Nice Monkey]

When comparing both Dune models have a look at the update made for HD Realbox 4K.
Mainboards are very different beyond the Realtek SOC used.

Also the Android version is 7 not 9 with Realtek having a policy of never upgrading OS versions on a SOC once released.

Just warnings to make the right choice. 

[futeko.com]

When comparing both Dune models have a look at the update I made for HD Realbox 4K.
Mainboards are very different beyond the Realtek SOC used.

Realbox doesn't have a USB 3.0 port, so USB 3.0 devices not working is a given.

Realbox provides the Dune interface and excellent image quality at a low price. It has 2T2R dual-band wi-fi and Gigabit ethernet, so for most users who will access media over LAN the disadvantages regarding USB are not relevant. If you regularly use external physical drives then other products are probably more suited.

[Lgans316]

Does this play HEVC 4K60P?

[futeko.com]

Does this play HEVC 4K60P?

Yes.

[Nice Monkey]

Might even wait myself for a "HD Pro 4K II Plus" model as I liked the connectivity of the Plus most.
Dune gave me the following answer when being asked about it:

Hello,
Pro 4K II Plus will be on sale in June-July.

That sounds promising.