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Author Topic: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?  (Read 36023 times)

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2019, 06:25:01 PM »
HiSilicon do have an 8K and 4K@120fps chipset already. Nice we can make all this but how useful is it? Most people have a 4K TV these day to watch 1080P only (cable TV, Satellite, Streaming services) . Never saw a UHD 4K Disc Player at anybody's home to be honest, many don't even have a BD player.
Nice but only good for own recordings and above all gaming. For gaming there are far better platforms!

A new box with just HDMI 2.1 makes more sense as there will be at least real implementations using that.  Including HDR in all flavors with that would be useful.
For 8K sorry but there is no source material for that. Just let the TV do the upscaling as it does now for 4K.

TV broadcasting and streaming services just start to use 4K sporadic.

Bottomline we don't really need better HW what we need is better Firmware/Software!
« Last Edit: July 22, 2019, 06:27:51 PM by Nice Monkey »

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2019, 02:41:14 PM »
Nice Monkey,

I have a UHD 4K disk player and a ton of 4K discs. I'd say easily way over half of the media I watch is 4K, between discs and the bit of streaming I do. That said, I know very few people who have 4K TVs, and definitely don't know anyone who has 4K discs or players. Even I have no desire to move to 8K any time soon. Youtube does have some beautiful 8K videos, but I'm not ditching a great TV just to see some Youtube videos in a bit higher rez. So I have to agree with you, 8K and 4K@120fps features are bonus "nice to haves", but HDMI 2.1 features will be more useful in the near future. I'm not opposed to 8K being available in a device tho, just for future proofing.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2019, 04:54:07 PM »
I noticed the features of the HiMedia Q100 model, but being owner of the Himedia Q10 pro I don't see big differences that can justify the upgrade to this model.
Maybe firmware with less bugs?

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2019, 04:03:38 AM »
I noticed the features of the HiMedia Q100 model, but being owner of the Himedia Q10 pro I don't see big differences that can justify the upgrade to this model.
Maybe firmware with less bugs?
Q100 looks to be just a Q30 dressed in a new case, the only technical advantage is it has more storage.

Firmware is still android 7 and probably still the same bugs. There is no Bluetooth just like the q30.

Certainly not worth acquiring.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2019, 09:08:36 PM »
It would be nice if the new model has (at least) on of these features:

  • full HDMI 2.1 ports
  • HDR support for: HDR10/HDR10+/Dolby Vision
  • Able to play 4320p (30/60fps) content
  • .ax (Wi-Fi6) WiFi
  • 10Gbit ethernet ports (2.5Gbit or 5Gbit would also be nice)
  • IMAX Enhanced feature

Did I miss any....

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2019, 04:03:38 PM »
The price for such a device would be in the hundreds of dollars/euros (I honestly do not see why 1 Gbit is not enough for local content, since 1 Gbit is not yet surpassed by even the most demanding bitrates). I would love to have any of the other features that HS2005 has pointed out. I would love for it to have any form of CoreELEC, LibreELEC or OpenElec instead of Android with a strong WiFi chipset. I would pay 200 to 300 EURO tops for it. HiMedia could be able to cut on the cost by giving up Android.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2019, 06:04:06 PM »
The price for such a device would be in the hundreds of dollars/euros (I honestly do not see why 1 Gbit is not enough for local content, since 1 Gbit is not yet surpassed by even the most demanding bitrates). I would love to have any of the other features that HS2005 has pointed out. I would love for it to have any form of CoreELEC, LibreELEC or OpenElec instead of Android with a strong WiFi chipset. I would pay 200 to 300 EURO tops for it. HiMedia could be able to cut on the cost by giving up Android.

I got the HiMedia Q10 Pro since 2016 and for me personally I don't mind if the new device costs 300/400 dollars/euro's. If you own these devices for let's say 4 or 5 years then it's a good investment.

Regarding the content: you might never know if we have 8K content (10/12bit) running at 120fps in about 5 years. If your 1 Gbit ports could handle it then it should be no problem. It also depends on the compression used (maybe h266?) HiMedia could also bring out 2 devices with 8K like they did with the Q5 Pro/Q10 Pro.

And like already mentioned in this post, yes the software must also be good. Don't want to many bugs to start with...
« Last Edit: August 05, 2019, 06:09:28 PM by HS2005 »

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2019, 02:28:34 AM »
After like 12 FW or so the Q10 Pro still have issues with VC-1 video playback (and much more).  I will switch to HTPC as soon as I will be able, as regardless how refined would be the hardware (as in the case of the current flagship line), regarding the FW updates and the quality of support it will still not worth to wait for anything here. I would rather buy a Zidoo next time, than anything from HM.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2019, 05:20:25 AM »
@Mount81
Excellent point. Likewise here.
What would be from your standpoint a good HTPC configuration and what software environment?
Not considering other highend alternatives like OPPO205, XBOX OneX (scorpio)?
Cheers.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2019, 08:57:35 AM »
mihailuican
The AMD 2400G or 3400G APU's with Vega 11 graphics seem quite enough for 4K / HDR and a little bit of MadVR tweaking. One must need good and compatible fast RAM'S tho that can run at least at 3000MHz on a good Motherboard, that also has HDMI 2.0a port.

Not a so-cheap solution, but the most affordable HTPC option at the moment for 4K / HDR.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2019, 07:37:22 AM »
Mount81, mihailuican
SMPlayer with multimedia engine mpv and output drive madVR can give acceptable output on event smaller configuration that you mentions.
Until HiMedia will have HTPC let's try stop discussion about HTPC / PC media solution here as is off-topic, if anyone like to continue please do on General thread.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2019, 11:06:37 AM »
Some info on new 2020 8K HiMedia box here: https://www.futeko.com/products/MP100.php

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2019, 03:54:02 PM »
Multiple posts removed discussing other platforms. This thread is about HiMedia's successor to Q5/Q10 Pro.

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2019, 04:23:57 PM »
Good morning
I saw from the HiSilicon site that supports Dolby Vision, so at the Hardware level there should be no problem, only a license issue remains.
Thanks

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Re: Are Himedia preparing a successor model to the Q5/10 Pro line?
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2019, 11:46:26 AM »
HiMedia would better get in the Android TV bandwagon. I think I saw some Android TVs with HiSilicon chipset, but their performance is not that good, it is lacking a good display and the chipset is on the lower end. I, for one would love to re-iterate that Android is not suitable for media playback as OpenElec/CoreElec/LibreElec are. I would almost jump the gun on a HiMedia TV box with any of the 3 open OS platforms. Linux-based firmware is a hell of a lot easier to maintain than Android and it has less costs, not to mention that it runs natively and not through a VM like Android does.

I would urge @futeko to tell them this point of view, to go with Linux-based firmware rather than with Android, since a non-certified (from DRM/Widevine point of view) Android TV box loses its advantages over a Linux-based one.

 

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