Himedia Q5, H8 or other?

[langostino]

I don't know if buy Himedia H8, Zidoo X6 or Himedia Q5. Can you help me to decide?

[rafarataneneces]

I don't know if buy Himedia H8, Zidoo X6 or Himedia Q5. Can you help me to decide?

HiMedia Q5 has a wrapper which allows you to play the video on a separate video player even if you launch it from XMBC/Kodi.

That's the basic difference.

HiMedia H8 uses Kodi (with 7.1 HD audio passthrough) directly, without a wrapper calling the external app.

And no, H8 will NOT receive a wrapper any time soon.

I would personally chose Himedia H8 because that would allow me to use Kodi with 7.1 HD passthrough and also the Media Player with 7.1 HD passthrough.

Seems like Kodi 7.1 HD passthrough is unstable, but it seems like it will be stable in the following weeks/months.

So if you want something that works perfectly after applying a firmware update and installing the wrapper, buy Q5.

If you want a product that will be more solid in the near future, buy H8.
H8 has better hardware specs.

[futeko.com]

H8 is more powerful and has the advantage of features being implemented in native Kodi (no wrapper). Compared to the Q5 however it currently lacks 3D-ISO in Kodi, 7.1 HD-Audio has some bugs, it lacks Hicontrol, Samba server, PVR in Kodi. Most/all of these will be fixed/added in future in firmware updates.

Q5 has working 3D-ISO, 7.1 Audio in Kodi via wrapper and has a year of firmware updates behind it so has few/no bugs. On the hardware side Q5 has S/PDIF coaxial audio, external SATA, front LCD, power button. H8 has none of these. The other big thing that Q5 has over H8 is better picture quality. This is likely to always be the case, the Q5 chipset was developed specifically for video playback whereas the H8 chipset is more general purpose.

Zidoo X6 is the same internal hardware as H8. Some people would say current firmware is better but this is unlikely to be the case for long. Himedia are bigger company and have better development resources. Also, Zidoo changes to Kodi are open source so can be replicated easily.

In my opinion (and we have an X6 here) Zidoo X6 has a fundamental problem in it's hardware design. It's casing is very small and made of cheap plastic. Many reviews online have noticed performance drops over time or when the device is pushed. This is due to overheating and CPU throttling, the casing provides insufficient cooling for the RK3368 chipset. Decoding high bitrate video is one of the most intensive things a chipset can do, so a media box will be pushed to it's limits regularly and for extended periods of time. Himedia H8 has a larger all aluminium casing and a big heatsink, which are much better for keeping the chip cool. H8 casing also looks a lot better aesthetically. See photos below.

[MortUK]

If you want something that works "out of the box" today with Atmos, DTS-HD, 3D iso. then go for the Q5

If you're happy to wait a while for future updates for a better end product, Something that runs better, smoother and is compatible with future hardware such as 4k,  HDMI 2.0 etc.. then go for the H8

I can't comment on the Ziddon as i don't have any experience of it.. But in my research before buying was of the opinion that the H8 was the way to go...

Mort...

[mirror88]

LOL~~~~~
Toshiba MLC eMMC,H8 have?
802.11ac  433M 2.4G/5G,H8 have?
Bluetooth, H8 have?
1000M Ethernet,H8 have?
Does this call  better hardware? come on!Only the cost of the WIFI module is more expensive than the H8  5USD.
According to your opinion, ZIDOO should not be open source?Don't you know your kodi version for H8 based on zidoo open source??

[horstvdm]

Mirror 88,

I would be nice if you mentioned that you are working for Zidoo. 

[mirror88]

Yes,I am
As you can see, I doesn't change ID
I don't want to say anything.I understand here is HiMedia turf
But here is an obvious misleading.

[futeko.com]

Yes,I am
As you can see, I doesn't change ID
I don't want to say anything.I understand here is HiMedia turf
But here is an obvious misleading.

I am making one simple point.

Zidoo X6 has a much smaller heatsink, much smaller case, and a plastic case vs aluminium for H8.

Several reviews have noted Zidoo X6 CPU throttling, which is a result of overheating.

Overheating will result in degraded performance and hardware problems over time.

I don't want to get into a forum war about it. There are some good things about Zidoo X6, the effort going into software development being the main one.

[hdmkv]

To be fair, as I have both Q5 and X6, after using for 2 hours, Q5 runs quite a bit hotter. I'm not seeing performance degraded in either Q5 or X6 up to 3 hours. Haven't used longer than that yet in one sitting. But, H8, which I don't have yet, looks to have better internal design vs. rest.

[futeko.com]

To be fair, as I have both Q5 and X6, after using for 2 hours, Q5 runs quite a bit hotter. I'm not seeing performance degraded in either Q5 or X6 up to 3 hours. Haven't used longer than that yet in one sitting. But, H8, which I don't have yet, looks to have better internal design vs. rest.

Q5 has an aluminium shell, which is designed to act like a heatsink. It's designed to get warm.

When you get H8 if possible please test heat and performance over time under heavy load. It will help put this argument to bed.

[hdmkv]

I expect no heat-related issues with H8. With Q5, I recall someone had done a temperature check & posted Q5 getting to around 60+ degrees Celsius, and the aluminum casing does get very hot, but if it's designed for that, no worries I guess. Like I noted, I didn't notice any performance issues after 2-3 hours of sustained use.

[bore]

Hi,and greetings from Bulgaria.I am interested in getting H8 or Q10.I will play 95% of the time mkv files h.264 or h.265.Also 3D mvk files.I have Sony DAV-DZ260 with only optical in,so my only interest is DD 5.1 and DTS.Will both of product play dts and DD 5.1 from optical out?
Which one of these should i choose? My tv-Panasonik AX-750,so 4k playback will be fine to have.

[bore]

No one??

[futeko.com]

Hi,and greetings from Bulgaria.I am interested in getting H8 or Q10.I will play 95% of the time mkv files h.264 or h.265.Also 3D mvk files.I have Sony DAV-DZ260 with only optical in,so my only interest is DD 5.1 and DTS.Will both of product play dts and DD 5.1 from optical out?
Which one of these should i choose? My tv-Panasonik AX-750,so 4k playback will be fine to have.

Sorry, missed your post yesterday.

3D MKV isn't supported on either Q10 or H8. You'll need to convert it to ISO. See here: http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=158.0 Once it's in ISO format then either Q10 or H8 will play it using Himediaplayer (Himedia's Android video player). Himediaplayer is better at the moment on Q10, more format support and better subtitle support. Q10 will play 3D from Kodi using a wrapper solution (calling Himediaplayer from Kodi). H8 will play 3D ISO as SBS 3D now and should soon have full native MVC 3D ISO support in Kodi.

Both Q10 and H8 will play 5.1 audio via TOSLINK optical out.

Both play 4K. Q10 max 4K30, H8 4K60.

My advice would be to go for Q10 (or Q5) if you want something where everything works now. It doesn't sound like you're going to need the extra raw power of the H8.

[bore]

Ok it is a difficult to chose right one :)Let me give you file info.Name:..............................3D.half.OU.BDRip.1080p.x264.DTS.mkv


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Video
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Will i be able to play this on any Himedia device?Most of the movies will be something like this.Sorry,but i am not familiar with most of  info