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mihailuican

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2019, 12:05:37 PM »
Hello guyz,
It is a long-time-forgotten topic, but there's a new noob in it. Me.
I'm using this tool to understand colorspace a little bit.
But after I launch the .bat file, it keeps runnning every few seconds and I do not have the time to save a full log until the next one is displayed.
How do you stop it from updating continuously?
Thanks.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2019, 06:44:28 AM »
@mihailuican
Now is about 5 seconds edit line in .bat file "ping 192.0.2.2 -n 1 -w 5000 > nul" or replace full command with pause.


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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2019, 10:35:55 AM »
Thank you Pcristi. I'll give it a try and maybe I will come back with some results.
Cheers.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2019, 03:19:11 PM »
@Pcristi.
I added the pause line and worked like a charm
I setup for 4:4:4 - 8bit, for my tv, film is 1080p SDR, and this is the output of the tool, attached. It seems it is running in 4:4:4:, doesn'it? I think it is OK. Your opinion? Thanks.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 03:24:53 PM by mihailuican »

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2019, 03:50:43 PM »
@mihailuican
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Formt/DispMode      :1920*1080_23_976/2D
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SrcFrmType                          : SDR
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DeepColorMode  : 36                    SpdInfoEnable  : NO
OutColorSpace  : YCbCr444              MpegInfoEnable : NO
ColorSpaceAdapt: NO                    DeepColorAdapt : NO
Press any key to continue . . .
According  attached file is  YCbCr 4:4:4 12Bit :).

DeepColorMode
24 = 8Bit
30 = 10Bit
36 = 12Bit

BTW this is my prefers mode for FHD display and 720p/1080p SDR contend on UHD display.


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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2019, 07:55:53 PM »
Thanks for your answer.
Probably this is what the Q10Pro is outputting, but, FOR SURE, the tv (Panasonic TX-50DXU701 has only 8-bit display. This is the display tech specs.
It's not bad, it was all I could afford.
Right now I am watching some series, 720p, and is showing 8 bit 4:4:4: 24, and 4:4:4.So it is not always the same, it is a function of the playback film.
The first, Hobbit, was a direct rip of a bluray, like 38GB (huge), probably that was why the 4:4:$: 12bit quality.
Cheers.

Edit: Later, I played again Hobbit, and was only 8 bit 4:4:4:.
Now I understand:
setting up Q10Pro, in settings/display to 2160p-30Hz playback, and using your autoFMTswitch_1.3.9.2, the playback of the movie is 1080p, 24hz, 4:4:4:12bit.
after I removed autoFMTswitch_1.3.9.2, under the same diplay sting of 21`60p-30Hz, the same movie playback is 2160p-24Hz, and 4:4:4: 8-bit only.
So, your framerate switch is actually helping augment to 4:4:4:12bit signal, but only 1080p, so the tv does the upscaling.
Without your framerate switch, the playback is 2160p but 4:4:4: 8-nit only.
I still fight to understand what's best for the eye....
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 08:18:53 PM by mihailuican »

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2019, 08:24:58 PM »
As I know are not in market 12bit UHD panel.
Please check again Panasonic display info report with Hobbit and don't confuse you 8bit panel with DeepColorMode are not equals.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2019, 08:43:02 PM »
You are right, I AM confused by panel 8-bit color HDR, "fake hdr" as it is called, and other specs, such as color depth.
This is my panel: (8bit color) https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/31f18d0 ...
Panel is 8-bit DEPTH, but 16777216 colors - 24 bits... and only 8-bit HDR, not HDR10....
I try to understand all these, is not that simple... https://dgit.com/4k-hdr-guide-45905/
Any advice and links to reading is welcome.
Cheers.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 08:45:28 PM by mihailuican »

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2019, 03:44:42 AM »
I get "only" 444 10bit during playback as well (bit disappointment, hoped it can switch to 12bit, but my TV may doesn't support it), I guess it's the best I could get with my FHD TV. Oh, and I didn't activated the "Advanced settings remote code", and didn't change any of these settings, all is as it's originally.

I guess I would be that lucky with an UHD TV, as I've read before, that's where "troubles" and "reductions" begin to occur during colorspace and bitdepth switching.

It would be good to see some tests with UHD videos (+HDR) on a UHD TV as well... I'm curious...

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2019, 12:55:33 PM »

Edit: Later, I played again Hobbit, and was only 8 bit 4:4:4:.
Now I understand:
setting up Q10Pro, in settings/display to 2160p-30Hz playback, and using your autoFMTswitch_1.3.9.2, the playback of the movie is 1080p, 24hz, 4:4:4:12bit.
after I removed autoFMTswitch_1.3.9.2, under the same diplay sting of 21`60p-30Hz, the same movie playback is 2160p-24Hz, and 4:4:4: 8-bit only.
So, your framerate switch is actually helping augment to 4:4:4:12bit signal, but only 1080p, so the tv does the upscaling.
Without your framerate switch, the playback is 2160p but 4:4:4: 8-nit only.
I still fight to understand what's best for the eye....

Install autoFMTswitch_1.3.9.2 with option 1, after box reboot run  RUN_ME.bat again and choose option 6 to inactive switch resolution, then can try again Hobbit maybe will see 2160p/24Hz with 12Bit.

Possible to do setting by edit /sdcard/autoFMTswitchFlag
Line 1 --> General switching script ON/OFF
Line 2 --> AFR active on OMX(YouTube, Netflix, etc...) OMX/OFF
Line 3 --> AFR switch resolutions RLS/OFF

Probably will not see difference with Hobbit if you don'w direct compare with OPPO, but are some specific movie like The Martian (2015) where banding color are more easy to see it when is set with wrong DeepColor.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2019, 04:02:53 PM »
With FMT option 1, display settings were changed: I initially set them up 2160p 30Hz, 444-8bit. I found them changed to 2160p 50Hz, 420 8bit.
I changed them again to 2160p 25Hz and 444-8bit.
I did, FMT switch option 6, and the same hobbit played 2160p, 24Hz, but 4:4:4: 10 bit, not 12 like before. I attach again both infotool logs initial hobbit, and final with option6.
I am sick at home for many months, so I can test a little bit more, if you need me to, and tell me how and what specifically.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2019, 06:33:52 PM »
autoFMTswitch script is not intend to continue support or improve.
Our 4pda friends have a alternative project of AFR Assistant utility witch are on beta stage more details can be read on 4pda forum.

AFR Assistant utility request:
- CFW v2.1.0[1.5]/v2.1.1[1.x] or CFW Madandndron/RiCo97
- AFR_APP_Install(xx).zip download from mediafire for my CFW v2.1.0[1.5]/v2.1.1[1.x] .
- advanced understanding of how to set via /sdcard/afr.cfg.
- HiMedia AFR ON
- install with AFR Install and Run.bat

Credits go to YouROK & MadAndron from 4pda forum.

Know problems of AFR Assistant v26
- not OMX support
- not PAUSE/PLAY support
- not proper work with HiMedia AFR OFF
- not support of 12Bit with 1080p
- Break 3D view (not 3D output support)
- sometime stack on black screens
- Maybe other witch I don't remember now

LE:
Add on mediafire archive with older version of afr
- proper work with HiMedia AFR OFF
- support of 12Bit with output 1080p
- add a demo afr.cfg for FHD TV with 12Bit support

Know problems of older version
afr.cfg need to contend rules for 0.25 fps a same as MainMenu to avoid double switch.
Note: AFR Assistant can be downloaded medifire
- v26 here.
- older here.

If something not go like you want just run AFR Disable.bat
Use at your own risk.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 08:06:30 AM by pcristi »

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2019, 06:47:08 PM »
Thank you, I will try and read about it, despite the fact that it is in Russian.
As compared to YOUR FMT switch, any advantages in performance, or just the fact that it is still under development, improvement in time?
Thank you, Pcristi.

I see that there are two variants of their CFW. How can I extract only the APR apk from their zip package, please, to follow future improvements without installing thei cfw and maintaing your 2.1.1?
Simply take their "afr" file and replace it in place of your afr file and keep the other?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 08:29:57 PM by mihailuican »

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2019, 07:27:49 PM »
Chrome Google translate from Russian to English is OK for read 4dpa forum.
AFR Assistant utility is a Linux executable don't need to extract anything from they custom FW just use mediare files from AFR_APP_Install_v26.zip
on my CFW v2.1.0[1.5]/v2.1.1[1.x] will easy for you and general user here.
Why CFW v2.1.0[1.5]/v2.1.1[1.x] or they CFW, simple because need FW with init.d support to call 00afrStart
Compare AFR scripts with AFR Assistant utility a last one use less resource and more flexible configuration after understanding of how to deal with  /sdcard/afr.cfg.
Future update is mean to update afr file and execute again "AFR Install and Run.bat"
Maybe latter I will to make a AFR Install and Run.bat compatible with all HiMedia/Egreat/Dinobot FW.

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Re: Color space which setting to select?
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2019, 09:53:15 PM »
Good to know, the next days I will try more combinations of Q10 display and colorspace settings, with playback of different files plus/minus both framerate switches (yours and afr) to see what OUTPUTINFO I get... and IF I understand anything systematic of all these.
Thank you for your work and willingness to help others too.

 

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