Manual for Q10Pro interface

[macbrowndog]

Hi,

Is there a manual or a help area to learn how to move the icons on the home screen on the Q10 Pro

Thanks
Andrew

[maelor]

I get the impression that most people involved with this type of project are "hipster" nerds, hiding behind their beards and wearing check shirts and sandles. They have very few people skills and so writing a manual to be used by real human beings is totally beyond them!

The original launcher is abysmal and shows how little thought was put into the design. This is why there have been calls on these boards to allow the installation of an established launcher like Smart Launcher or Nova Launcher as default but "they" will not allow us to do so!

If you want to see how bad a "manual" can be, see http://kodi.wiki

[Eriol]

Chinese people doesn't have too much beard. I don't know about sandles. 

About the icons (GUI session):
http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1517.0

[maelor]

In the release notes for he latest Kodi 17 RC4 this amateurish approach is highlighted in the following text:

"... we would certainly welcome any developer who has the ability to help us out to try and fix the bugs ..."

There's a lot to be said for Microsoft  !

[maelor]

I would like instructions on how to to uninstall Netflix from the q10? I suspect that the answer is that it can't be done because Himedia are being paid to put it there? I don't want it and will never use it!  So why should I be prevented from uninstalling it?

Why, when I uninstall Facebook and Skype, do they reappear whenever I reboot the box? I have no use for these either. Again are Himedia on the make here  ?

[drabisan]

I[ve uninstalled both Facebook and Skype and I have 2 other apps put in their place on the launcher. And they don't appear after reload.
I didn't try to uninstall Netflix because I'm actively using it, but I would say it's kinda ridiculous to suspect Himedia for receiving payments from Netflix for that. I'm sure Himedia would be asking Netflix to allow the box to run 720p or 1080p in exchange! That will significantly increase the value of the box for the end-user.

[Eriol]

1: Kodi has nothing to do with HiMedia. Kodi is a community project, developed and maintained by users all around the world for free. It is as is, you are not forced to use it. I don't understand your Microsoft connection.

2: Reappearing apps are there to prevent accidental deletion (I think). However you can unsinstall them with ADB:

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adb connect IP:5555
adb root
adb remount

adb pull /system/etc/facebook.apk
adb pull /system/etc/skype.apk
adb pull /system/app/netflix/netflix.apk

adb shell rm /system/etc/facebook.apk
adb shell rm /system/etc/skype.apk
adb shell rm /system/app/netflix/netflix.apk

adb uninstall com.skype.raider
adb uninstall com.facebook.katana
adb uninstall com.netflix.mediaclient

Edit:
I messed the netflix path. Txh pcristi for the correction.

[pcristi]

Chrome / Youtube Google TV

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adb pull /system/etc/chrome.apk
adb pull /system/etc/youtube.apk

adb uninstall com.android.chrome
adb uninstall com.google.android.youtube.tv

adb shell rm /system/etc/chrome.apk
adb shell rm /system/etc/youtube.apk
Netflix  Android 7.0

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adb uninstall com.netflix.mediaclient
adb pull /system/app/netflix/netflix.apk
adb shell rm -R /system/app/netflix

[maelor]

1: Kodi has nothing to do with HiMedia. Kodi is a community project, developed and maintained by users all around the world for free. It is as is, you are not forced to use it. I don't understand your Microsoft connection.

Yes I know that! But both 3D-launcher and Kodi are on the q10 and both are second rate! I always cringe when I see the word "community". The blind leading the blind? And in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king sadly!

I was suggesting that Microsoft employ professional programmers???

We should not be expected to use Android ADB Shell Commands to do simple tasks like removing software. The function should be built in to the interface  options.

[Eriol]

1: Kodi has nothing to do with HiMedia. Kodi is a community project, developed and maintained by users all around the world for free. It is as is, you are not forced to use it. I don't understand your Microsoft connection.

Yes I know that! But both 3D-launcher and Kodi are on the q10 and both are second rate! I always cringe when I see the word "community". The blind leading the blind? And in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king sadly!

I was suggesting that Microsoft employ professional programmers???

We should not be expected to use Android ADB Shell Commands to do simple tasks like removing software. The function should be built in to the interface  options.

You didn't know that HiMedia uses Kodi as it's default media library?
Still don't understand what is the connection between MS and your problem with Kodi.

About ADB, you are right. These apps should be removable by default.

[futeko.com]

You awoke me from my soy latte. 

Customers have a choice. They can buy Microsoft / Google / Apple products where you get a manual but you are locked into that company's ecosystem, or you can buy less mainstream products where you don't get a manual but they are more customisable and can do stuff the mainstream companies wouldn't necessarily want you to do.

The launcher for Q5/Q10 Pro is simple and I like it. With the pcristi firmware it is further improved. It's only firmware 2.0.1 where the launcher cannot be replaced. If you want a different launcher run 1.0.9, it's better in many ways anyway (app compatibility inherent in it being Android 5.1 not 7 being the main one).

The thing about removing apps is very minor as far as I'm concerned. Just replace the apps on the home screen and you'll never see them unless you go into the My Apps menu. Going back to Microsoft / Apple et. al, they are somewhat worse for forcing bloatware onto customers. Or remove them the ADB way. I have recommended to HiMedia that all apps are fully removable but they see to want to keep some every present. I seriously doubt they are getting paid for this.

[maelor]

You didn't know that HiMedia uses Kodi as it's default media library?
Still don't understand what is the connection between MS and your problem with Kodi.

(1) I DID know  that HiMedia uses Kodi as it's default media library. So they both work in conjunction.

(2) Microsoft uses PROFESSIONAL programmers KODI use COMMUNITY programmers. I'm can't make it any clearer than that. Which bit don't you understand  ?

[maelor]

The launcher for Q5/Q10 Pro is simple and I like it. With the pcristi firmware it is further improved. It's only firmware 2.0.1 where the launcher cannot be replaced. If you want a different launcher run 1.0.9, it's better in many ways anyway (app compatibility inherent in it being Android 5.1 not 7 being the main one).

My q10 box arrived a few weeks back with Android 7.0 and firmware 2.0 already installed. Are you saying that I should now downgrade to Android 5.1 and firmware 1.0.9, and then add  an unofficial  patch to make it work properly  ?

[futeko.com]

My q10 box arrived a few weeks back with Android 7.0 and firmware 2.0 already installed. Are you saying that I should now downgrade to Android 5.1 and firmware 1.0.9, and then add  an unofficial  patch to make it work properly  ?

It works properly as supplied with HiMedia launcher.

If you want to install a different launcher then you can choose to install firmware 1.0.9 or wait a few weeks and see if HiMedia change firmware 2.0.2 to re-enable custom launchers.

[maelor]

... wait a few weeks and see if HiMedia change firmware 2.0.2 to re-enable custom launchers.

OK , I 'll have to wait for that then! But define "a few weeks" ... will that be 2, 4, 10 or 52 weeks???