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Author Topic: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV  (Read 20387 times)

Zooma

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Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« on: May 28, 2015, 11:43:08 AM »
Can someone please tell how you do this, on the HD900 you would select to switch to sbs or over and under it would work, can find the option on this unit.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 01:14:47 PM »
Frame packed MVC 3D (i.e. Blu-Ray standard) should work without changing any settings on the Q5.

The 3D settings are accesible during playback by pressing the menu button on remote (or middle button on a 3 button mouse). There are options for side by side, top and bottom and force TV 3D. The force 3D option may get it working for you.
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Zooma

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2015, 01:42:28 PM »
The only options I see are

SBS to 3D
TAB to 3D
SBS to 2D
TAB to 3D
Origion Mode
Senior Mode

I also have a HD900 and don't have this problem with that

hdmkv

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 02:40:27 PM »
Is your full, frame-packed 3D file in ISO container/format? If so, you don't need to do anything other than play the title via Kodi, assuming you have HiMedia wrapper installed.

Q5/10 won't play 3D MVC MKV in 3D (only 2D mode); must be ISO.

Zooma

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 02:52:23 PM »
It's a frame packed MKV created using MakeMKV from the original ISO, these play fine on the HD900

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 03:47:08 PM »
It's a frame packed MKV created using MakeMKV from the original ISO, these play fine on the HD900

it's not strand , you must use frame-packed 3D file in ISO container/format can be play with all 3D player.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2015, 09:49:38 AM »
Frame packed MKV 3D (i.e. Blu-Ray standard) should work without changing any settings on the Q5.

The 3D settings are accesible during playback by pressing the menu button on remote (or middle button on a 3 button mouse). There are options for side by side, top and bottom and force TV 3D. The force 3D option may get it working for you.

If I am understanding this correctly, some members below are saying that the 3D MKV files are required to be in an ISO, is this true? I don't want store my 3D movies twice, as an ISO for use by kodi and MKV for my Roku box (Play 2D using Emby)

My Samsung 3D Bluray Player does not play 3D's ISOs or 3D MKVs (ripped with MakeMKV), using latest tsMuxer and remuxing 3D MKV to M2TS and it plays perfectly in 3D.  Would the same thing work on the Q5?

If none of the above are supported, then is HiMedia looking into supporting 3D from MakeMKV ripped MKV, or M2TS.

Other than that I like what I am reading about this player.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2015, 10:20:46 AM »
Frame packed MKV 3D (i.e. Blu-Ray standard) should work without changing any settings on the Q5.

The 3D settings are accesible during playback by pressing the menu button on remote (or middle button on a 3 button mouse). There are options for side by side, top and bottom and force TV 3D. The force 3D option may get it working for you.

If I am understanding this correctly, some members below are saying that the 3D MKV files are required to be in an ISO, is this true? I don't want store my 3D movies twice, as an ISO for use by kodi and MKV for my Roku box (Play 2D using Emby)

My Samsung 3D Bluray Player does not play 3D's ISOs or 3D MKVs (ripped with MakeMKV), using latest tsMuxer and remuxing 3D MKV to M2TS and it plays perfectly in 3D.  Would the same thing work on the Q5?

If none of the above are supported, then is HiMedia looking into supporting 3D from MakeMKV ripped MKV, or M2TS.

Other than that I like what I am reading about this player.

strand rip for blueray 3D is ISO or bdmv not MKV for all player 3D.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2015, 01:02:27 PM »
The previous Himedia HD900 would play these files, don't understand why they have removed the feature

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2015, 02:51:32 PM »
Because HD900 and Q5/10 have completely different chipsets. But, having said that, Q5/10 should be able to play MVC MKV's as the HiSilicon chipset already has MVC h/w decode ability. I'll pass the request to HiMedia engineers as it's just a container issue, not a decoding one.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2015, 02:00:11 PM »
strand rip for blueray 3D is ISO or bdmv not MKV for all player 3D.

If you mean standard rather than strand, then I would say it is a compromise to get 3D working rather than a standard, most people would probably like to rip to a single file so that it can be played directly or trancoded, which is why MKV rather than ISO playback is more popular, not having to have a container within another container which is what a ISO is, great if you want menus to browse through, but I think most people would prefer the choice, which is why 3D MKV and 3D M2TS and 3D ISO is being supported on other players.

Because HD900 and Q5/10 have completely different chipsets. But, having said that, Q5/10 should be able to play MVC MKV's as the HiSilicon chipset already has MVC h/w decode ability. I'll pass the request to HiMedia engineers as it's just a container issue, not a decoding one.

This answer helped me, you seem to understand codec/containers, if would be great if 3D MKV could be added, if autoswitch is not possible MVC could be added to the filename (.MVC.MKV), like on Mede8ter.

Is it possible for anyone to test a remuxed 3D MKV to M2TS with the Q5 does this play, as an M2TS would be played within an 3D ISO.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2015, 03:15:56 PM »
If you have a "remuxed 3D MKV", you can go to ISO. I'm assuming you used MakeMKV to rip the 3D disc? Get the latest tsMuxeR (v.2.6.12), drag the MKV into it, and choose Blu-ray ISO as the output. That's it, you'll have a movie-only 3D ISO with audio, chapters & subs (whatever you had in the MKV).

The only issue with above is if you have any MVC MKV's with TrueHD. Because TrueHD and core AC3 need to be separate tracks, if you saved only TrueHD, tsMuxeR won't allow you to save to ISO. If you did save the core AC3 separately, you can I believe. In my case, I had to re-rip all my 3D BD's that have TrueHD.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2015, 09:44:44 PM »
If you have a "remuxed 3D MKV", you can go to ISO. I'm assuming you used MakeMKV to rip the 3D disc? Get the latest tsMuxeR (v.2.6.12), drag the MKV into it, and choose Blu-ray ISO as the output. That's it, you'll have a movie-only 3D ISO with audio, chapters & subs (whatever you had in the MKV).

The only issue with above is if you have any MVC MKV's with TrueHD. Because TrueHD and core AC3 need to be separate tracks, if you saved only TrueHD, tsMuxeR won't allow you to save to ISO. If you did save the core AC3 separately, you can I believe. In my case, I had to re-rip all my 3D BD's that have TrueHD.

I am aware TsMuxer (2.6.11) creates 3D ISO's, I used it to create the ISO to test on my Samsung 3D BD player, but as I mentioned I have other streamers in the house Emby on my roku, that would mean I would need to store a 40GB movie twice.  That is why I was asking about M2TS as that would have been possible to play on both.

I will probably have to store a converted version for the time being, but if you have any clout with devs, please could 3D MVC MKV playback be considered in a future update this would swing me away from Mede8or which will play 3D MKV.

Luckily all my 3D MKVs all have the TrueHD and the Core.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2015, 12:04:44 AM »
I too went from M8R to HiMedia, mainly as I wanted Kodi as my movie/TV front-end. I think ISO is the way to go for 3D rips. Raspberry Pi 2 is expected to support this soon, and most of the Android players that already support full 3D do so for ISO container.

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Re: Q5 Playing Full Frame Packed 3D MKV
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015, 09:05:24 AM »
Quote from: rewsteruk
Luckily all my 3D MKVs all have the TrueHD and the Core.

Thanks for your help

Why didn't you keep all of your movies in ISO container, it has all necessary qualities to be perfect container.
1) supports Dolby Atmos
2) supports H.264 MVC (i.e. the original 3D source from the studio)
3) every modern player can read ISO and if it hasn't 3D support reads the 2D version of the movie (because m2ts files that are in the ISO have this backward ability)

at all you can use TSMuxer to strip not needed menus and some of the audio and subtitles tracks
before I kept my 2D movies in MKV but after Dolby Atmos I've changed to single m2ts file, which is very close to ISO container

this is my opinion

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