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[magnifico]

[hdmkv]

HDR is not a sure bet either. Recently video guru Joe Kane said he preferred SDR w/the wider color gamut supported within it (vs. HDR). Interesting podcast and discussion here.

[magnifico]

[MikeDelta]

I also hope that the next Firmware Release will fix the micro stutterings with 1080p movies @ 23,976Hz! 

[Fa.Ch]

Hello,

I don't know if my bugs have allready been reported beacause it's a little bit specific

- I own a Bluedio audio casque (Bluetooth version: V4.1, A2DP, AVRCP, HSP, HFP) and it's nor recognized by the Q10 (not listed so no pairing possible)

- When using the serch field in Play Store for Kodi for example, i just can type 2 letters, (K and O) and the appli crashes if typing another letter after

[Alter_Schwede62]

Magnifico

There is another fundametal bug with 23.976Hz (90% of all movies are made in 23.976Hz), that if 24Hz Option is turned on, produces Micro Stutter resp. even Mini Freeze all about 40 -50 sec.
In a german forum several people tested it, and confirmed that very sad bug. 

Please reproduce and post it in you opening thread otherwise we will receive a corrected firmware, the player isn't able to play 23.976Hz without mini freezes!

I cannot understand it, because playing 23.976Hz is so fundamental, that I do not have any words for that bug... 

[pcristi]

I cannot understand it, because playing 23.976Hz is so fundamental, that I do not have any words for that bug... 

Bug of 42 second drop frame(Micro Stutter) are present in 90% of Android players, and can be consider also TV/Projector bug.
Good example for this are models from Samsung TV H  series where not feel this problem and D/J series with annoying feeling of this bug.

HiMedia fix this problems in past year on him mediaplayer let's believe will fix on Q10/Q5 Pro soon.

[looun]

[Alter_Schwede62]

I cannot understand it, because playing 23.976Hz is so fundamental, that I do not have any words for that bug... 

Bug of 42 second drop frame(Micro Stutter) are present in 90% of Android players, and can be consider also TV/Projector bug.
Good example for this are models from Samsung TV H  series where not feel this problem and D/J series with annoying feeling of this bug.

HiMedia fix this problems in past year on him mediaplayer let's believe will fix on Q10/Q5 Pro soon.

there are 2 different  thing:
1)  true 23,976hz HDMI output:

Himedia Q10 pro can output at 23,97 at FHD and 4k.

usually android player can output only 24fps = 24hz.
usually Bluray film and some TV serie are 24P = 24000/1001 = 23,976 fps .

And that means what?
That the Mini Freezes of 23.976 Movies cannot be eliminated on Android Players?
Thats would be Horror, cause 90% of my movies are in 23.976! 

BTW To circumnavigate this problem, I switched off the 24Hz Option. This is the only way not to have Mini Freezes with 23.976 movies all 42 seconds.

[looun]

I cannot understand it, because playing 23.976Hz is so fundamental, that I do not have any words for that bug... 

Bug of 42 second drop frame(Micro Stutter) are present in 90% of Android players, and can be consider also TV/Projector bug.
Good example for this are models from Samsung TV H  series where not feel this problem and D/J series with annoying feeling of this bug.

HiMedia fix this problems in past year on him mediaplayer let's believe will fix on Q10/Q5 Pro soon.

there are 2 different  thing:
1)  true 23,976hz HDMI output:

Himedia Q10 pro can output at 23,97 at FHD and 4k.

usually android player can output only 24fps = 24hz.
usually Bluray film and some TV serie are 24P = 24000/1001 = 23,976 fps .

And that means what?

99% android player NOT support true 23,976 HDMI output.

There are only 5-7 box: Himedia Q5/M3/Q10 and Q10 Pro, Nvidia shield, wetek core and nimix U1.

All Popular linux box support true 23,976 HDMI output.
All HTPC  AMD and  Nvida GPU support true 23,976 HDMI output, INTEL only from  Broadwell soc.

[Alter_Schwede62]

Perhaps I should aks you something.

What is the reason for, that some guys from a german forum and me too have 42 sec Mini Freezes? (On my Sony KDL55 Motionflow is deactivated)
You say, it works, we say it does not work, and forward this as 24Hz, what ends up in Mini freezes all 42 seconds.

And now? Whats right, whats wrong?

I was testing with the testpattern (moving stripes from Kodi wiki (1080p 23.976).
Under Section 4, the first one.

Can you tell me, why this testpattern freezes all 42 seconds on my TV, and as it seem on your TV not?
My AVR is a Yamaha RX766.

[magnifico]

Magnifico

There is another fundametal bug with 23.976Hz (90% of all movies are made in 23.976Hz), that if 24Hz Option is turned on, produces Micro Stutter resp. even Mini Freeze all about 40 -50 sec.
In a german forum several people tested it, and confirmed that very sad bug. 

Please reproduce and post it in you opening thread otherwise we will receive a corrected firmware, the player isn't able to play 23.976Hz without mini freezes!

I cannot understand it, because playing 23.976Hz is so fundamental, that I do not have any words for that bug... 

You need to read more carefully 
Point #5

- Problem with playback of 24P material. In certain periods there can be seen a short stuttering/freeze.

[Alter_Schwede62]

No, I read carefully, but now I am talking to Looun.
If I understood him correct, he wrote that Android players aren't able to play 23.976 movies without stuttering/freeze, but the Himendia players should do it correctly, without the freezes.
But thats wrong.
I just tried it directly HDMI to the Sony TV, and the 23.976 pattern cannot be playes stutter/freeze free! 
So too the Himedia players f.e the Q10 Pro  are NOT able to play 23.976 files without mini freezes.

[magnifico]

24Hz is all bla bla. There is no source for 24hz. This can only be self-created stuff.

There is:
BLU-RAY = 24P = 23.976 Fps
DVD PAL = 25P =25 Fps
DVD NTSC = 29.976Fps
4K Ultra HD BD may also contain 50P = 50 Fps or 60P = 60 Fps. But that is sadly more likely for documentarys.
I once thought foolish hollywood  would get rid of this awful 24P shit when  moving on to 4K but...

24P does NOT run smooth and saying it does would be embarrassing.
I think he was saying that only few android players are able to play true 24P by hardware. All other boxes need tricks to play 24P as smooth as possible so it does not distract as much as it currently does on Q10pro.

[Alter_Schwede62]

I think he was saying that only few android players are able to play true 24P by hardware. All other boxes need tricks to play 24P as smooth as possible so it does not distract as much as it currently does on Q10pro.

The Q10 Pro only plays 23.976 smooth (with no Mini freezes) if you switch to 60Hz, and disable the 24Hz Option. Thats  the truth.

And the guys who do not like 60 or 50Hz have big problems, because they have mini freezes all 4-50 seconds.