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Author Topic: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???  (Read 21851 times)

Bostjan

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 10:17:23 PM »
Hello,

I've tested various HEVC bitrate samples from http://jell.yfish.us/ from 120 to 400 Mbps. Samples were played with internal player via Media Center from three different sources:
1. LAN, 1Gbps, SAMBA
2. 160 GB HHD SATA HHD put into USB 3.0 reader which was connected once to USB2 and another time to USB3.0 port of Q5Pro with 2.0.7 firmware.

Based on the results (see attachement) I would say that Q5Pro is perfectly able to play at least Main 10@L5.1@High profile. That is if you stream content from transport providing enough bandwitch - for example connecting player to cheap 100Mbps switch won't do it. Success of playing profiles with higher bitrates (above 160 Mbps) depends on the used transport/hardware/etc.

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2018, 09:50:28 AM »
Main 10@L5.1@High is wrong codec  :o.

I suppose you try to watch 4K UHD Untouched , this mkv video are mix from BD UHD video trace(from english region ) and DB audio trace (from other region like italy ).

This video are not true Untouched  or not true 4K UHD, it's a fake.

Wait true 4K UHD when release in your region.

are you joking ?
the codec is pefect legal , and if i want, i can mux the uhd from english with any language i want....
to problem is not related with different framerate with video and audio....
if i take a video trace form a uhd bd and i put in the matrioska conteiner with any language i want ,in the end ,the result is a uhd remux perfect fine and not fake....

looun

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2018, 02:41:08 PM »
Main 10@L5.1@High is wrong codec  :o.

I suppose you try to watch 4K UHD Untouched , this mkv video are mix from BD UHD video trace(from english region ) and DB audio trace (from other region like italy ).

This video are not true Untouched  or not true 4K UHD, it's a fake.

Wait true 4K UHD when release in your region.

are you joking ?
the codec is pefect legal , and if i want, i can mux the uhd from english with any language i want....
to problem is not related with different framerate with video and audio....
if i take a video trace form a uhd bd and i put in the matrioska conteiner with any language i want ,in the end ,the result is a uhd remux perfect fine and not fake....

no ....it's fake video ,it's true UHD video re-encoding into wrong Main 10@L5.1@High codec .


Wait true 4K UHD when release in your region.


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Aspetta un vero rip del UHD lascia perdere questi re-sync fatti coi piedi.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 02:43:04 PM by looun »

Bostjan

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 04:07:22 PM »
Main 10@L5.1@High is wrong codec  :o.

I suppose you try to watch 4K UHD Untouched , this mkv video are mix from BD UHD video trace(from english region ) and DB audio trace (from other region like italy ).

This video are not true Untouched  or not true 4K UHD, it's a fake.

Wait true 4K UHD when release in your region.

are you joking ?
the codec is pefect legal , and if i want, i can mux the uhd from english with any language i want....
to problem is not related with different framerate with video and audio....
if i take a video trace form a uhd bd and i put in the matrioska conteiner with any language i want ,in the end ,the result is a uhd remux perfect fine and not fake....

no ....it's fake video ,it's true UHD video re-encoding into wrong Main 10@L5.1@High codec .


Wait true 4K UHD when release in your region.


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Aspetta un vero rip del UHD lascia perdere questi re-sync fatti coi piedi.
It seems you mixed-up things a little bit. You're talking about LEGAL things ('fake' video), while the topic is about TECHNICAL thing. It's probably clear that you can not compare or discuss such things together....

looun

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2018, 04:52:05 PM »
i am talk about TECHNICAL  ;),this video are  "home make" with x.265 encoder , not true demux plus extra audio .   


True BD 1:1 rip and  true UHD remux / UNTOUCHED work without issues .
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 04:56:46 PM by looun »

farlucco

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2018, 05:41:22 PM »
i am talk about TECHNICAL  ;),this video are  "home make" with x.265 encoder , not true demux plus extra audio .   


True BD 1:1 rip and  true UHD remux / UNTOUCHED work without issues .

but looun ,sorry, the uhd remux are only video track ,and i can mux with any language....
plus , the uhd stream , are encoded in x265 format ...and in "main level 5 high"

and i dont understand what you mean...

this is a example about video stream in a iso full uhd (not fake not remux,real full iso)

 Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 55343 kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR / BT.2020 /

you can read "Main 10 Profile 5.1 High"
« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 05:45:27 PM by farlucco »

Bostjan

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2018, 09:21:21 AM »
It seems most of the videos with L5.1 High were working fine with 2.0.6 (which came preinsalled on Q10 Pro), when I upgraded to 2.0.7 firmware it stopped working. Now looking to rollback the update to 2.0.6.

That is odd. As you can see the results from my test few posts above, 2.0.7 is able to play L5.1 High just fine.
However, there are reports that Q10Pro with installed HD does suffer from insufficient power supply. See http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=3280.0 and try better power supply.

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Re: why not H.265/HEVC Main10 profile@Level5.1 High , just 4.1 ???
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2018, 05:39:33 PM »
Hi3798C V200 Brief Data Sheet

Video Decoding (HiVXE 2.0 Processing Engine)
  • H.265/HEVC Main/Main10 profile@level 5.1 high-tier,
    maximum 4K x 2K@60 fps and 1x1080p@30 fps
    simultaneous decoding
  • H.264/AVC BP/MP/HP@level 5.0; H.264/AVC MVC,
    maximum 4K x 2K@30 fps decoding
  • VP9, maximum 4K x 2K@60 fps decoding
  • VP6/8, maximum 1080p@60 fps decoding
  • MPEG1, maximum 1080p@60 fps decoding
  • MPEG2 SP@ML, MP@HL, maximum 1080p@60 fps
    decoding
  • MPEG4 SP@level 0?3, ASP@level 0?5, GMC, short
    header format, maximum 1080p@60 fps decoding
  • AVS baseline profile@level 6.0, AVS-P16 (AVS+),
    maximum 1080p@60 fps decoding
  • VC-1 SP@ML, MP@HL, AP@level 0?3, maximum
    1080p@60 fps decoding

 

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