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Author Topic: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat  (Read 62596 times)

Paulo72

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Is my SD card formatted correctly to be used as internal storage?  I am confused.  Is settings, storage it appears properly formatted, but in File explorer it does not.  Is it correctly formatted?  See Attached

I went ahead an decided to start from scratch to see if things got any better.  But now my sd cards isn't read as internal stroage.  Should I have removed it first?  Now is says it is corrupt, but I can set it to used as external storage and use on my computer.  Weird?

But I did get it to work now.  I think I have it figured out now.  The only problem I'm having now is that it freezes on shutdown.  The only way to shut it down is to press the button on the box.  Do love the picture quality.


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« Last Edit: April 13, 2017, 05:56:57 PM by Paulo72 »

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UHS-1 not supported as the card will not work? I use a UHS-1 card and it works fine, tried a UHS-3 32Gb too but that one failed.
Your card must be a hybrid card working via the slow bus. Nothing strange about that. Some cards don't even get the correct labels/logos, which is very bad.

Hybrid cards do work, but UHS I (Class-1/3) native cards without the compatibility  logo won't. There are also UHS I Class-3 hybrid cards and there are even huge (seen up to 128 GB) SDHC only cards (typically brand-less).

Never saw an ultra fast UHS II hybrid card, which does not make too much sense anyway. UHS II cards have a dual bus and have a dual row of pins (easy for identification) and are almost as fast as SSD.

I tried this one.

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@ Mr. Ed.
According the label it is a high speed UHS I  speed 3 only bus card despite being 32 GByte and I would be surprised if it worked. But a very nice card for high speed 4K UHD cameras indeed as indicated. :)
There is no indication for compatibility mode on it.  :o
Very misleading as it even states SDHC. Sorry but SANdisk makes a real mess of their SD-Card labeling. They probably call everything up till 32 GByte SDHC (factory formatted FAT32) and 64 GByte and above SDXC (factory formatted exFAT) which is absolutely misleading information. HW reader slot/bus compatibility is the real important piece of information, which in this case was done correctly but I would hence call it also an SDXC card and not SDHC, but who is me if even a market leader does it differently!

@ Paolo
Looks like you got it formatted right as Internal storage also being a 32 Gbyte card.  :)
But you can't use it as Portable at the same time and you may never take it out again once being deployed as Internal.
Taking it out (even shortly) will cause all kind of instabilities and may cause loss of data, settings and APP's added.  :'(
You may need to do a full FW restore to get back to normal.

To use the additional Internal storage facility the new extra APP's must be installed on it or moved to it individually per APP. Not all APP's will support this. You will need to look at the forum/specifications of the APP for support and ways to achieve this per APP. As all my players have 32 GByte flash, this is the point where I stopped playing around with Internal Storage and can't talk out of own experience.

The compatibility logo is a symbol that looks  somewhat like @ with a speed indicator inside that symbol; this always being a 10 for hybrid cards. It is the "Speed Class" symbol on the Kingston example added (=Works with conventional devices). Mr Ed's SD-card is exactly missing that specific symbol.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2017, 06:51:46 PM by Nice Monkey »

Paulo72

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The card I used is a Sony Class 10.   Happy it worked.  The only thing holding me back from purchasing this box at first was that is only had 8GB flash memory.  When I read they upgraded the OS to Android 7 and I knew a micro sd card could be used as internal memory I was excited.  I tried not to install too many apps and I received a low space warning which was when I decided to purchase a micro SD Card to expand my internal memory.  The picture is excellent and sound is very nice.  I notice one app in Kodi 17 I now run on medium resolution (480P) and it looks as good as my previous box which I'd have in HD resolution (720P).  Also I couln't find the box for a price I could afford.  Even directly out of China it cost more than ordering from futeko.  The free shipping was nice,  I think for streaming TV / movies 2GB RAM is enough, 3GB would only br useful for gaming, which I don't care about.  The box is heavy, quality aluminum build.  Premium quality, even the remote has a nice feel to it.  Only wish it had a STOP button on the rmote and the clock display was larger, minor issues.  This is being typed on the Q5 Pro's Chrome brower on a Logitech K400 Keyboard.  I love this box, worth every penny, and then some...

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The only issue I have is I cannot get the wrapper to work, but picture and sound is so good its a minor issue.

alexvanniel

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Hi guys and girls,

I only see people mention either SD-cards or external HDDs, but what about the internal HDD (Q10 Pro). What I want to do is have for instance Netflix see the HDD I placed internally as a target to store downloaded films and series on. This is particular handy when you know you are going to a place where you don't have neither wired nor wireless internet and still want to watch Netflix. Netflix allows for movies and series to be (temporarily) downloaded to the local storage.

So is there a way for me to do this? I am however on Android 5.1.1 but I seem to remember that this option should be also possible on Android 5. I had a Nexus 5 (with Android 5.1.1) not so long ago where this was possible.

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I only see people mention either SD-cards or external HDDs, but what about the internal HDD (Q10 Pro). What I want to do is have for instance Netflix see the HDD I placed internally as a target to store downloaded films and series on. This is particular handy when you know you are going to a place where you don't have neither wired nor wireless internet and still want to watch Netflix. Netflix allows for movies and series to be (temporarily) downloaded to the local storage.
Only if Netflix allows you to do so via explicit writing to a user defined Portable Storage location. Hence an App setting/feature must be foreseen. Never saw one myself but hardly use(d) Netflix so far.

Internal storage (Marshmallow / Nougat) has nothing to do with it. The Himedia integrated format tool does not allow any other medium than an SD-Card for Internal storage anyway. But some other Format tools integrated with Android do allow this also for the Internal HDD (Marshmallow with Xtreamer eXpress media player). This would help for Netflix if it allows using a secondary internal storage resource, no idea if this is the case either.

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Mmm, I tried formatting the internal drive but no formatting tool could even find the HDD unless it was already partitioned (which I had done on the PC before I installed the drive). So eventually I partitioned it on the PC and formatted the partition to exFAT so it would readable on basically any device (PC, Mac, Android, etc). I know exFAT is actually meant for SD cards but NTFS isn't writable on a Mac unless you pay for a plugin or start hacking away at the NetBSD layer underneath. Anyway, exFAT it is and the Q10 Pro can read and write to it... just not use it as additional storage for Netflix and I don't think I can move apps to it either. Oh well.

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HiMedia FW 2.0.3/2.0.4 have added  Default storage equipment support for  use USB storage  as  "sdcard".




Paulo72

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2017, 08:53:36 PM »
I did this and everytime I update my firmware I have to reformat the card to be used as internal storage,  Is there anyway to avoid this

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2017, 04:46:29 PM »
I did this and everytime I update my firmware I have to reformat the card to be used as internal storage,  Is there anyway to avoid this

With the latest 2.05 update i constantly got a card error and there was no way to fix it, so i went back to 2.01 and now it's fine again.

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2017, 03:30:13 PM »
Just to remind People that formatting an internal drive with exFat Limits your Maximum file size to 4GB so if you plan on copying over anything larger like an iso then you Need to use NTFS

Paulo72

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2017, 08:04:18 PM »
Would this card work fine  (UHS1) to expand the internal storage 80Mb/s transfer speed?

Paulo72

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2017, 05:13:14 PM »
Useful info that overcomes any lack of flash storage problems, particularly useful for Q5 Pro.


What is the fastest SD  Card class that can be used?  I currently use a sony class 10.  It says 70 Mb/s speed, is this good enough?  It does freeze sometimes

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Re: Using a SD-Card to expand Internal Android system storage running Nougat
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2017, 03:30:27 PM »
Would this card work fine  (UHS1) to expand the internal storage 80Mb/s transfer speed?

Card should be SDHC type and not SDXC.

 

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