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Old Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: cutefix on May 08, 2021, 08:01:29 AM
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Greetings guys...May I know the maximum capacity HDD 7200 rpm, that can fit into the HiMedia Q10.?
I am downloading 4 k movies which are over 50 GB in size and my 2TB HDD is now too cramped for it.
Therefore
I am planning to get a bigger one and I want to hear from experienced Q10 users about the big capacity of HDD for their Q10
Further what Hdd brands are reliable to use.
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Hi. A 7200 RPM drive is a bad idea for a Q10 pro. It needs a lot of power to work. The energy-efficient 5,400 RPM GREEN series drives are a better choice. According to the instructions, you can use a maximum of 3.5 inch SATA6 GB disk with GPT partition. The 5400 rpm disc does not slow down and does not blur the playback of movies, I have one and it works perfectly. greetings
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I appreciate your feedback...Hmm, its first time I know that 7200 rpm is not desirable for the Q10..Thats maybe the reason my drive does not last long in that device..?
May Iknow from your experience
Does the 5400 rpm drive does not slow down the playing of 50 gb 4 k video?
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Q10 Pro ma słaby zasilacz. Jak pisałem, dyski 7200 rpm potrzebuja znacznie wiecej mocy. Na pewno nic Ci nie spowolni, :)
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Sorry :) Polish.
Q10 Pro has a weak power supply. As I wrote, 7,200 rpm drives need significantly more power. For sure nothing will slow you down :)
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I really appreciate that enlightening statement...than you very much....
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You welcome :)
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Regardless of power supply there is no performance advantage in using a 7200RPM HDD in any media player. Any HDD will provide much more than enough throughput for any video file.
The most important factor for a media player HDD is noise. You want as quiet as possible. NAS drives are good. I would recommend WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf, 54000RPM Seagate Barracuda.
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Hi Futeko does those brands you mentioned had high capacity drives..some high capacity drives had speed above 5400 RPM,, around 6000 RPM , can those run in Himedia Q10?
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Yes. There is no limitation on drive speed compatibility with Q10 Pro, it's just not worth it financially to pay more for a faster HDD which will perform exactly the same as a slower drive for media playback.
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HI Futeko, I had previous experience using a larger 7200Rpm drives but as it becomes filled with movies, its started to create issues where it suddenly stops playing where the movie hangs.It was just a matter time, that the particular HDD failed that it won't run anymore that I had to replace it .Is it because of faulty HDD or incapability of this Himediaq10 is underpowered.
I am still thinking if I can recover all those assorted movie and video files from thar failed HDD but I asked a data recovery professional, the price was just to steep to be worth the recovery.
When I heard lately that this Himedia Q10 pro is under powered to run 7200RPM I was mulling of buying 6TB HDD at 5400Rpm for my heaps of 4k and blue ray extracted movies which I want to play through HIMEDIA Q10.
So from your opinion is it true that the power output of this q10 is limited to lower speed HDD ,specially for high capacity units.?
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For any HDD a 12V 2A adapter will just do but bigger is better here. Always used an earthed 12V 4A myself with it.
Which SATA HDD (Internal/External) to get for these players and how to format?
This must be the question asked most for any media player. My cut&paste answer is generic for all brands and models:
- If you like absolute silence: Any 2.5 drive using an 2.5 => 3.5 adapter will do also for Internal. A SSD can be used too obviously but is regarded an overkill by me as it offers no substantial additional advantages.
- A bit cheaper is using any low speed version 3.5 HDD. Cheaper/slower models is better in most cases. Player performance will be identical and less energy => less heat => above all less fan/drive noise!
- The cheapest is buying an External USB drive even for an Internal HDD by extracting the build-in HDD from that one. That is what I usually do myself.
Formatting with GPT and NTFS using all defaults will do the job. Don't use FAT32 (no big file support) and no exFAT (less robust as not intended for HDD's but for sticks/cards). Make very sure there are no second or hidden partitions on it as Android likes it plain and simple (it does not process these options).
For Apple and/or Linux PC users a good alternative is EXT4.
What about lifetime/warranty? Using HDD's with a media player the player will be off most of the time and individual HDD's are stopped when not in actual use by most brands. No need for a NAS having HDD's spinning 7x24h! In fact my media player is also used as my SMB Server with the only disadvantage that safety copies need to be made manually/automated (no RAID but yes true Plug&Play). The cheapest way for backups is sharing your entire collection with a good friend!
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I recently tried a6tb Barracuda drive ,but its not trad by my computer 64 bit windows 8.1 It has the right specs,6tb max 5400 rpm
Can someone explain whats happening here?
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I recently tried a6tb Barracuda drive ,but its not trad by my computer 64 bit windows 8.1 It has the right specs,6tb max 5400 rpm
Can someone explain whats happening here?
trad = read?
Format should be GPT + NTFS.
A guide: https://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=932.0
More info: https://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=576.0
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Greetings Futeko,
Thanks for the clue,, I was able to sort out my new 6tb HDD...:-)
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Greetings guys...May I know the maximum capacity HDD 7200 rpm, that can fit into the HiMedia Q10.?
I use Seagate ST16000NM001G Exos X16 16TB 3.5" SATA 512e/4Kn Enterprise Hard Drives. They work well. The 7200rpm rotational speed is slightly beneficial when doing USB 3.0 transfers as it is easy to achieve 250MB/s+ with them.
However, for playback, any rotational speed drive will suffice.
I use a 5A brick type power supply.
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I use Seagate ST16000NM001G Exos X16 16TB 3.5" SATA 512e/4Kn Enterprise Hard Drives. They work well. The 7200rpm rotational speed is slightly beneficial when doing USB 3.0 transfers as it is easy to achieve 250MB/s+ with them.
:o 16 Terabyte ... really ..? Is it not too thick HDD that it won't fit the HIMEDIA Q10 pro? Is it 7200rpm rotational speed..? Did younot get any problems with the weak powersupplyof this q10 pro.. I had problems previously with 7200 rpm thats why someone advised me to get the 5400.. But I found out that the reading speed of 5400 is not as fast as 7200 rpm in my himedia... there is a slight difference reading speed of few seconds ....
May I know how much is the price of a 16 TB HDD in USD?
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I haven't checked it, but if the Q10 pro supports GPT partition tables, I think even a 16TB disk should work. I do not have such a large disk. My drive has a capacity of 3TB.
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Is it not too thick?
No. Standard 3.5" HDD dimensions.
Is it 7200rpm rotational speed..?
Yes
Did you not get any problems with the weak power supplyof this q10 pro..?
After I changed to the 5A brick type power supply all power problems vanished.
May I know how much is the price of a 16 TB HDD in USD?
Probably around $830. Look on Google.
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Hi Laager,
I thought that the more the capacity of the HDD it will become thicker so that my thinking so its a self limiting factor that make some sense when other said the himedia q10 is limited to 6 tb due to such size limitation..
I am not quite familiar about drives with bigger capacity nor was it proven to actually fit the HIMEDIA Q10 hdd compartment.
Further you said that replacing the power supply of the Q10 with 5A sorted out the power supply problem so it can run faster than 5400 RPM speed drives. But as I see it the Q10 power supply is non detachable from the unit,, So how did you replace the power supply for you himedia q10.
I am interested to hear more about your insight and familiarity with the Himedia Q10.
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Further you said that replacing the power supply of the Q10 with 5A sorted out the power supply problem so it can run faster than 5400 RPM speed drives. But as I see it the Q10 power supply is non detachable from the unit...
A 7200rpm drive will work on the standard power supply. However, some 7200rpm drives draw more power than others. As you increase the HD capacity, the current draw usually increases slightly. However, you want a power supply that can feed the internal HD and any accessory connections (i.e. USB3) simultaneously. The standard power supply struggles when the Q10 Pro has many demands.
See here:
https://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=4680.msg30495#msg30495
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The standard power supply struggles when the Q10 Pro has many demands.
So you mean the 12 volt 2A power supply is insufficient if all the Himedia Q10 usb outlets plus the HDMI are used ?
If supposing I had a 7200 rpm drive at 6 TB and only the HDMI cable is being connected would it still run smoothly if the drive is already above half capacity?
How about if the 6tb 5400 rpm HDD is nearly full , would the 12 V 2 A power supply still suffice to run it smoothly?
I am asking as based from past experience with HDD failure I used the same power supply with the 3 TB 7200 rpm HDD in this HImedia , that was 3/4 full of movies when it failed , when the hard drive doesnot respond anymore ..Which upon checking by running the drive in an enclosure using a laptop with usb 3.0 cable and slot will not run similarly.
Do you have any idea what would be the specification for a powerful power supply that can maximize the power load of the q10 but not overloading it?
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Changing the power supply to a more powerful one is not entirely the solution to the problem. In addition to the power supply, on the Q10 pro motherboard, there are also additional power supply systems for individual components (3.5 'SATA drive, USB sockets, processor, etc.). The power of these systems is also important. If the disk draws more power, the motherboard has more loaded elements powering it. It also matters.
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Changing the power supply to a more powerful one is not entirely the solution to the problem. In addition to the power supply, on the Q10 pro motherboard, there are also additional power supply systems for individual components (3.5 'SATA drive, USB sockets, processor, etc.). The power of these systems is also important. If the disk draws more power, the motherboard has more loaded elements powering it. It also matters.
Hi Nandish.. My Himedia Q10 is only connected by HDMI cable via arc, Its USB slots are not used to focus more on the drawing power of the HDD for the power supply... So I want to verify would replacing the 12 volt 2A power supply be a good solution, supposing and almost full 6 tb 5400 RPM or 7200 rpm HDD would draw more power?
I don't want my HDD to fail .. Do youhave any idea what is the maximum amount of file that can be put into the 6tb HDD that will still run comfortably in the HI MEDIA Q10?.. if the formatted capacity of the 6tb is 5.500 tb. would it be okay if the remaining free hdd space is just 500 mb left?
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cutefix, my rule is that I never completely fill a formatted partition. I am always left with 500MB of free space. The operating system then works more efficiently and lighter on the disk load. Use the entire disk for the movies partition, but, as I wrote, do not fill this formatted partition completely, leave 0.5TB of free space and it will be fine. If you are not actually using the USB ports (especially USB 3.0), you can only replace the power supply with a more powerful one and use the 7200 RPM disk (it will make a lot more noise and heat up). Still, I recommend drives from NAS, 5400 rpm. Greetings :)
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cutefix, my rule is that I never completely fill a formatted partition. I am always left with 500MB of free space. The operating system then works more efficiently and lighter on the disk load. Use the entire disk for the movies partition, but, as I wrote, do not fill this formatted partition completely, leave 0.5TB of free space and it will be fine. If you are not actually using the USB ports (especially USB 3.0), you can only replace the power supply with a more powerful one and use the 7200 RPM disk (it will make a lot more noise and heat up). Still, I recommend drives from NAS, 5400 rpm. Greetings ....
Thanks Naandish for that information... Iam glad you clarified that a drive should not be filled to the brim..las time I only left 250 mb ....Have a nice day, keep safe,,,,.
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So you mean the 12 volt 2A power supply is insufficient if all the Himedia Q10 usb outlets plus the HDMI are used ?
That is my experience.If supposing I had a 7200 rpm drive at 6 TB and only the HDMI cable is being connected would it still run smoothly if the drive is already above half capacity?
Yes.How about if the 6tb 5400 rpm HDD is nearly full, would the 12V 2A power supply still suffice to run it smoothly?
Yes. How much data is stored on the drive makes no meaningful difference to how much power the drive consumes.
Do you have any idea what would be the specification for a powerful power supply that can maximize the power load of the q10 but not overloading it?
Power supplies do not overload the Q10. The Q10 only draws how much power it needs - up to the limits of its internal circuitry.
The power supply nandish and I use is perfectly acceptable and totally excessive for use with the Q10. It simply provides clean stable power as demanded by the Q10.
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Hi Naandish and Laager,, so from your experience ;
12 V ,2A power supply is MORE THAN ENOUGH for the power supply needs of Himedia q10 regardless if you use 7200rpm or 5400 rpm HDD....
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I suspect that the only way you are going to be satisfied is if you go and obtain a degree in electrical engineering.
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So today I've made some current measurements in my Q10 Pro:
At power on when the mechanical hard drive starts spinning it reaches about 2A
During boot: 1A
With no app running: 0.6A
With the hard drive working (downloading torrents): 0.7A
With the hard drive working and playing a video file: 0.8A
With also an external unpowered 2.5 USB hard drive connected:1A
My hard drive is a 3.5" Toshiba DT01ACA050, the current consumption will vary with other hard drives.
I believe that most issues with the power supplys are caused by aging components (capacitors) and not the rating.
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I upgraded my power supply to a simple 2.5A one when the original one gave up after 3 years of daily use. Have had no power issues since.
My internal HDD has been upgraded from a 4Tb to an HGST 8Tb 7200rpm with no problems. I also regularly plug in an external USB 8Tb drive (I have 3) and play high bitrate UHD movies (some files are >100Gb), also with no problems.
These 4K movie rips take up heaps of HDD space!!
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I upgraded my power supply to a simple 2.5A one when the original one gave up after 3 years of daily use. Have had no power issues since.
My internal HDD has been upgraded from a 4Tb to an HGST 8Tb 7200rpm with no problems. I also regularly plug in an external USB 8Tb drive (I have 3) and play high bitrate UHD movies (some files are >100Gb), also with no problems.
These 4K movie rips take up heaps of HDD space!!
Hi Phil....
May I know what brand of 8TB HDD did you use as my current 6 Tb HDD is full and need to get another one...TIA
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... as per my reply above, HGST 8Tb. I use these or Toshiba drives in my NAS's as well.