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Ongoing Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: tmihai20 on November 02, 2017, 07:39:01 PM

Title: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: tmihai20 on November 02, 2017, 07:39:01 PM
I have just upgraded my Windows 10 machine to 1709 and now I cannot access the samba shares on my Q10 Pro because Microsoft disabled SMB 1.0 access (as it can be seen here) https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/eba9a147-c1de-41b1-99aa-9c65efd45d8f/cant-access-smb-share-after-update-to-1709?forum=win10itpronetworking. We need Samba 2 or even 3 on the TV box. This issue will become increasingly important in time. It is also a security issue that should be avoided by having the TV box use a newer Samba protocol. Can this be done with a change in smb.conf?

I will try the solution described here https://tech.nicolonsky.ch/windows-10-1709-cannot-access-smb2-share-guest-access/.
Setting a password will not work, we still need to do the steps described in the link with the solution. The proper way would be to have the Q10 Pro use a newer Samba protocol.

More information can be found here https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/77ozwe/samba_access_and_windows_10_1709/?st=j9ivjxec&sh=ae1dab63.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
Post by: pcristi on November 02, 2017, 11:19:28 PM
I'm running  Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709 for about 2 weeks with not problems to connect to SMB 1.0 server.
Check your window features for SMB1.0 on Windows 10

Windows 10 Creators Update 1703
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/72c9/y00ce2oc84cmp90zg.jpg?size_id=4)

Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cae8/mabih7pyiaswnt4zg.jpg?size_id=4)

Windows 10 April 2018 Update 1803
(formerly known as Windows 10 Spring Creators Update)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b4de/dd539zcmv91oj09zg.jpg?size_id=4)
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
Post by: tmihai20 on November 03, 2017, 09:32:23 AM
I checked it, I still have SMB 1 client and server installed. I have just update to FCU 1709 version and I was having issue until I enabled guest access as described in the link https://tech.nicolonsky.ch.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
Post by: Phil181 on November 03, 2017, 10:40:24 AM
I also have 2 PC's updated to latest Windows 10 on day of release and have had no issues with Samba and network shares with the Q10Pro.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
Post by: tmihai20 on November 03, 2017, 12:20:59 PM
Some have this issue, some do not. One guy actually said he had 2 identical NAS devices, both set up the same way, for redundancy. He was able to access only one of them. One solution would be to make Samba use a newer protocol and also disable guest access.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709
Post by: pcristi on April 06, 2018, 06:29:52 PM
Microsoft change again Samba features defaults settings for SMB 1.0/CIFS
Windows 10 Spring Creators Update 1803
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/070d/5huogohbaqgubxczg.jpg?size_id=4)

SMB 1.0/CIFS Server need for get access from box to Windows share.
SMB 1.0/CIFS Client must be enable for access from Windows to box running FW base on Android 5.1.1.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803
Post by: DMD on April 26, 2018, 10:15:50 AM
Thanks for the precious information, only now I have seen this useful Thread.
By mistake I wrote a post on the same resolution of the problem and I apologize.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803
Post by: pcristi on July 29, 2018, 11:21:59 PM
ES Explorer/Kodi/Total Commander/etc account has no permissions/not ask for user&pass.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c2d0/pf8su4syzibzk47zg.jpg?size_id=3)
Try set RejectUnencryptedAccess to false on Powershell:
Code: [Select]
Set-SmbServerConfiguration -RejectUnencryptedAccess 0
Get-SmbServerConfiguration
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803
Post by: DMD on October 03, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dV2Nf6jV/Screenshot-002.png)

In the section Control panel> Programs and features> Activate or deactivate Windows features

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNbmGgM9/Screenshot-001.png)
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: uhdtv on May 26, 2019, 02:08:46 PM
For Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit OS, SMB option is not listed in the windows features. I created SMB1 in the registry according to the video
Code: [Select]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq6wsBxHzlgbut, I can't see SMB features listed yet.


Please help.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on May 26, 2019, 03:18:05 PM
For Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit OS, SMB option is not listed in the windows features. I created SMB1 in the registry according to the video
Code: [Select]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq6wsBxHzlgbut, I can't see SMB features listed yet.

Please help.

Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 not show on windows features SMB options, this why on clip is done from registry.

More info can get Microsoft site (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2696547/detect-enable-disable-smbv1-smbv2-smbv3-in-windows-and-windows-server).
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: uhdtv on May 26, 2019, 08:08:38 PM
For Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit OS, SMB option is not listed in the windows features. I created SMB1 in the registry according to the video
Code: [Select]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq6wsBxHzlgbut, I can't see SMB features listed yet.

Please help.

Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 not show on windows features SMB options, this why on clip is done from registry.

More info can get Microsoft site (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2696547/detect-enable-disable-smbv1-smbv2-smbv3-in-windows-and-windows-server).

Thank you for clarification.
My Zidoo x10 can't show this PC under SMB option but ESFile Explorer and VLC can show and play. Why is it happening so?
The problem with ESFile/VLC/MXPlayer is that it is unable to play video smoothly, even the 7.1 atmos audio is downmixed to 2 channel.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: uhdtv on May 27, 2019, 10:21:56 AM
strange thing is that I tried yesterday several times but SMB did't list the PCs, only ESExplorer showed. Today, at very first attempt ( after switching on the PCs and Zidoo) SMB scanning detected two PCs (one with win7 and other with win10).

I didn't change any settings,this time no USB devices are connected to media player => why is it happening so?

I afraid that if these 2 PCs got vanished again from the SMB list on the next run.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on May 27, 2019, 04:58:35 PM
Next time just try to restart a router to see if this will solve.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Mount81 on May 29, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Strange, I have tested with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en) and the result for SMB on the Q10 Pro were both 41Mbit/s fo down and upload. I'm still suspicious to my server laptop's upload speed, but with torrent I can get teh max out of my net: appr. 9MByte/s up/down speed.

So it's not surprise, all videos above 40Mbit/s tends to stutter a lot. Wonder if anyone lese have this kind of problem? I will try NFS, but don't really await much better results...

Futeko: the Forum's engine is horrible, I can't toggle view to insert hyperlink correctly as I could before... Is it maintained anyhow?
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on May 29, 2019, 05:36:43 PM
@Mount81
If you don't know how use something screaming will not help.

Insert link is simple like make text bold.
1. Write what you want to be display WiFi Speed Test (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en)
2. Select what did you write and press Insert hyper link
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4d31/esmy9jylsgl9ce4zg.jpg?size_id=4)
3. Fulfill url.
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/fb97/4r94098d42n5k8dzg.jpg?size_id=4)
4. Press Preview to check if everything is like you need.
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a00c/ovymrnud3no42q5zg.jpg?size_id=4)
5. Add more things if need, like picture, bold, color, etc.

Enjoy your free time...
Sorry guys for offtopic, but I can't refrain Mount81 is not first time when scream to Futeko.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on May 29, 2019, 06:25:14 PM
@Mount81
Here are  my result CFW Q10 Pro CS-AK Custom Firmware[1.5] 1GB transfer ~80 seconds.
Upload
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/99f2/6t1ffw09nr1r4grzg.jpg?size_id=4)

Download
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/949a/hure7nhnfbj32eszg.jpg?size_id=4)

Both
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cb43/g9755eakf6de6h5zg.jpg?size_id=4)
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Mount81 on June 03, 2019, 04:44:01 AM
1. I didn't "scream", this function of the Forum just isn't working like it used to, and I'm getting the feeling regards HiMedia subforum being very abandoned these days by Fut's Admin's, so it's get necessary to be a bit awareness-rising to get attention.   But I don't think I need to explain myself her any further... Here's what I've got: link to PlayStore (http://link to PlaySteore). First to do a proper linking you must click to "toggle view icon", but this icon doesn't work anymore, I'm clicking it and nothing happens. At lest that's how it worked before.
And can't remember any previous occasions when I've  did "scream'" to Futeko, or any, trying to be as polite as possible, it's not particularly me who's forgets to be polite sometimes.

Back to the Topic: I can get 70/100Mbit when Up/Downloading to my Router that has a HDD shared on it's USB, so it looks like it's rather my laptops SMB speed that deciphers. And also I can get 80Mbit load speed to my laptop through TPC, so it's definitely the fault of the SMB protocol somehow...
Anyhow, it's stange that the app detects only 100Mbit for Ethernet Link Speed, and my download via SMB also maxes out at 100Mbit. Wonder what's the reason? Will try NFS on my laptop, many say it tends to be faster. Iperf is tha app, I guess I can measure the NFS loads.


https://play.google.com/store?hl=en]Test link to PlayStore. (https://play.google.com/store?hl=enTest link to PlayStore.)-> SEE?? Exactly how it shows on your picture, but it's still unproper.

Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on June 03, 2019, 07:38:11 AM
Test link to PlayStore. (https://play.google.com/store?hl=en)
Code: [Select]
[url=https://play.google.com/store?hl=en]Test link to PlayStore.[/url]
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on June 03, 2019, 09:53:16 AM
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9f8d/stn06diwsif43d1zg.jpg?size_id=4)
For me this look to be 4  years old bug of that application see here (https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/999318-himedia-q5q10-quad-core-android-442-tv-box/page__st__360#entry18085665).

Check eth0 speed via adb shell reading information from kernel:
Code: [Select]
adb connect <ip_player>
adb root
adb connect <ip_player>
adb shell cat /sys/class/net/eth0/speed

iper test on Q10Pro what is did on 2016 here (https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/1056055-himedia-q30q5proq10pro-android-70-box-tv/#entry19221704).

You can see is not a real test application at least on Ethernet mode.
Some more test from that funny application:
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/772e/8i4lmealiu34n55zg.jpg?size_id=4)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9997/21w1crr1x6v59zpzg.jpg?size_id=4)
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Mount81 on June 03, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
On another Forum (just as here, see the "Aquaman BD Thread") a couple of users complained regarding stuttering with SMB shares (NAS or PC). I guess the HiMedia Boxes have some limitation or unpredictability regarding SMB streams. Like there's something "cutting off" the top part of the maximum possible speed between the server and the Box. Or it's some kind of compatibility issue, which results in speed limitation. I'm not sure yet. Will also test to my Gigabit Ethernet Desktop PC, see how it will end.

And I don't think it's that "funny" or unreliable application, as I've mentioned before the app's speed test results verified 100%-ly the stuttering problems with any, more than 40Mbit/s bitrate video on my system. So that's for that.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: pcristi on June 03, 2019, 06:06:44 PM
I'm not use SMB protocol, but standard of UHD disk has bitrate up to 120Mbit/s video and majority of users can see UHD disk playing over samba protocol, something must be wrong if can see only up to 40Mbit/s.
NFS are generally 2-3 time faster then SMB protocol and use less CPU, give a try of NFS from yours NAS or haneWIN NFS Server for Windows on yours laptop/desktop.
If you need help with NFS:
- NFS setting for NAS guide on Kodi wiki (https://kodi.wiki/view/NFS).
- haneWIN NFS Server for Windows nice tutorial in english on android-mediaplayer.de (http://www.android-mediaplayer.de/index.php/Thread/6096-XBMC-Kodi-Wrapper-Tutorial-NFS-HaneWIN-NFS/).
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: uhdtv on June 16, 2019, 04:54:02 PM
Next time just try to restart a router to see if this will solve.

After few days, when I start all a fresh, I can't connect my PC. It asks for user id & pass again and after putting in it says incorrect. I restarted router, desktop and zidoo thrice but it is unable to connect.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Mount81 on June 16, 2019, 05:26:49 PM
Wasn't that easy, but finally have NFS setup and working properly with Havewin. Tho' with iperf I can get 90Mbit/s up/down speed, the actual speed of my PC's NFS connection seems to maxed out at somewhere between 60 and 70Mbit/s, concluded by it couldn't playback stutter free a 80Mbit/s average bitrate video.  That still unsufficient for a lots of UHD videos, but that's the best I can get, and still much more better than the SMB's 40Mbit. 

I will have a try on one of these for my laptop (serving as a NAS): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32401431234.html?storeId=301635&spm=2114.search0604.3.10.4d251b439SBIXI&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10059_10884_10887_10696_100031_10084_10083_10103_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_10302%2Csearchweb201603_45%2CppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=1c343270-eaff-4179-b1b7-de587762fba3-1&algo_pvid=1c343270-eaff-4179-b1b7-de587762fba3&priceBeautifyAB=0 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32401431234.html?storeId=301635&spm=2114.search0604.3.10.4d251b439SBIXI&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10059_10884_10887_10696_100031_10084_10083_10103_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_10302%2Csearchweb201603_45%2CppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=1c343270-eaff-4179-b1b7-de587762fba3-1&algo_pvid=1c343270-eaff-4179-b1b7-de587762fba3&priceBeautifyAB=0) (The "Toggle View icon" and thus proper linking still doesn't work on this Forum).
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Nice Monkey on June 16, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
Its all relative but OpenWRT on any platform runs very smooth in the background with transfer rates up to around 110 Mbyte/sec Write and Read (that is about the limit with Gigabit Ethernet). FTP does the same but I prefer SMB (functionality using Total Commander), Yes I can still nicely play SACD (USB Music Player Pro)  concurrently in DSD or a UHD bluray concurrently.

Transfer speeds with HiSillicon vary a lot because for me unknown reasons from 13 Mbyte/sec to 65 MByte/sec. I would love to see Himedia SMB Client (and others) working with OpenWRT as it makes a great SMB server.
Title: Re: Samba access after Windows 10 Updates 1709/1803/1809
Post by: Mount81 on June 16, 2019, 06:33:47 PM
Transfer speeds with HiSillicon vary a lot because for me unknown reasons from 13 Mbyte/sec to 65 MByte/sec. I would love to see Himedia SMB Client (and others) working with OpenWRT as it makes a great SMB server.

You will probably never see that FYI.  HiMedia have left serious FW development and bug fixing since ages of updates, nothing we gained so far just the refinement of PQ (as I've noticed) with HiPlayer (at least that they did "somehow" in the right way).  And with every newer FW we just can hope that they didn't screw up anything mayor, that was working before (because that's our experience here).  Juts see some the fresh Topics around regarding: SD 19:6 and 4:3 aspect ratio bug since FW 2.0.4, was working proper before, and so why and how they wreck it?! <i>itallic<i> sub bug is still present with .srt since the beginning, that's so essential, that you have to ask: are they serious? I guess not... Not the level you would expect after buying a such promoted and expensive Player. Not even close.

Hardware material=good (still the best PQ that can come out from an Android player, thanks to the superb chip, even Zidoo falls behind), support=not so (and than I was polite). 

I got used to it's faults, and prefer it's benefits over the other options, but I guess it's just me, so if you would ask, I would recommend Zidoo over HM, as I would presume you're not the one who's willing to do and switch and check things manually all the time to get the right results...