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Ongoing Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 01:05:08 PM

Title: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
DOWNLOAD LINKS REMOVED 23-NOV. PLEASE SEE THREADS FOR FINAL VERSION FIRMWARE.

Q10 Pro: http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1392.0

Q5 Pro: http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1393.0

THIS IS A COMPLICATED INSTALL PROCESS WHICH CAN BRICK YOUR Q10 PRO.

BRICKING YOUR Q10 PRO BY INSTALLING THIS FIRMWARE WILL INVALIDATE YOUR WARRANTY.

PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS. THE FINAL RELEASE WILL BE EASIER TO INSTALL.

ONLY INSTALL IF YOU WANT TO TEST THE FIRMWARE. IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR DAY TO DAY USE. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS NO PLAY STORE. IF YOU WANT TO USE YOUR Q10 PRO NORMALLY STICK WITH THE ANDROID 5.1 FIRMWARE.

FOLLOW OUR INSTRUCTIONS PRECISELY!

THIS PROCESS IS FOR EUROPEAN HARDWARE Q10 PRO RUNNING ANDROID 5.1 FIRMWARE ONLY.


You must INSTALL BOTH FIRMWARES IN SEQUENCE using the restore button method.

STAGE 1. First firmware migrates from Android 5.1 to Android 7

* Rename INSTALL_THIS_FIRMWARE_TO_MIGRATE_Q10_PRO_FROM_ANDROID_5.1_TO_ANDROID_7.zip to update.zip.
* Power off Q10 Pro.
* Copy update.zip to a FAT32 formatted USB stick.
* Insert USB stick into Q10 Pro USB 2.0 port and power on box whilst holding restore button pressed down.

The box will boot into an upgrade screen (can take 5 minutes - leave it to complete!) and then reboot automatically into Android 7.

Download:

STAGE 2. Second firmware installs the latest Android 7 FW, HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904. YOU MUST INSTALL MIGRATION FIRMWARE (STAGE 1) FIRST.

* Rename ONLY_INSTALL_THIS_FIRMWARE_AFTER_FIRST_INSTALLING_THE_ANDROID_5.1_TO_ANDROID_7_MIGRATION_FIRMWARE._INSTALLING_THIS_FIRMWARE_DIRECTLY_ON_TOP_OF_ANDROID_5.1_CAN_BRICK_YOUR_Q10_PRO._HMD-2.0.0_2016-11-10.213904.zip to update.zip
* Power off Q10 Pro.
* Copy update.zip to a FAT32 formatted USB stick.
* Insert USB stick into Q10 Pro USB 2.0 port and power on box whilst holding restore button pressed down.

The box will boot into an upgrade screen (can take 5 minutes - leave it to complete!) then reboot automatically into latest Android 7 firmware.

Download:

How to downgrade from Android 7 version 2.0.0 firmware to Android 5.1 version 1.0.8

* Download this firmware:
* Rename Q10_PRO_RESTORE_ANDROID_5.1_AFTER_ANDROID_7_INSTALLATION.zip to update.zip.
* Power off Q10 Pro.
* Copy update.zip to a FAT32 formatted USB stick.
* Insert USB stick into Q10 Pro USB 2.0 port and power on box whilst holding restore button pressed down.

The box will boot into an upgrade screen (can take 5 minutes - leave it to complete!) and then reboot automatically into Android 5.1.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Some general info:

* Uses the HiMedia launcher so is very similar in appearance to Android 5.1 firmware 1.0.8.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947775_357679331242855_3034866560841923859_n.jpg?oh=b23ec4a8d310831899e34a84dbad1da8&oe=588D795F)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14915215_357679361242852_688150350835201306_n.jpg?oh=1e50486299d4d2d8320993bc8ccf35ba&oe=58C1E416)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 11, 2016, 01:38:23 PM
Is this the same version or updated after the closed community Beta testing? I see the same version number but with a more recent date indicating potential minor updates! A functional change list beyond the obvious OS upgrade from FW 1.08 would be nice.

Will give it a go for sure and share the findings here.  :D
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 11, 2016, 01:39:40 PM
Is it worth or is it buggy?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: ceaca on November 11, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
RESERVED  :)

Hellyeah  ;)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: OlivierQC on November 11, 2016, 02:05:46 PM
Good afternoon,

Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA, it is a good idea.

Changelog :

HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904 changlog:
1. Samba not working fixed
2. UPNP not working fixed
3. Crash of the box when click Wifi hotpot fixed
4. Wifi button and Bluetooth button not working in the More settings fixed
5. Latin input supported
6. Wrapper app supported
7. Windevine 13 supported
8. 24HZ button not working fixed
9. Fault device name in HiControl fixed
10. Fixed the wrong display ratio when side-by-side 3D movie is played in 2D
11. Add more fonts,subtitles better supported
12. Focus of the media center is optimized

have nice day
OlivierQC
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 02:11:23 PM
Is it worth or is it buggy?

It's worth it if you want to TEST the Android 7 firmware.

If you want to use your Q10 Pro then stick to 1.0.8 Android 5.1 firmware.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
Good afternoon,

Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA, it is a good idea.

Changelog :

HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904 changlog:
1. Samba not working fixed
2. UPNP not working fixed
3. Crash of the box when click Wifi hotpot fixed
4. Wifi button and Bluetooth button not working in the More settings fixed
5. Latin input supported
6. Wrapper app supported
7. Windevine 13 supported
8. 24HZ button not working fixed
9. Fault device name in HiControl fixed
10. Fixed the wrong display ratio when side-by-side 3D movie is played in 2D
11. Add more fonts,subtitles better supported
12. Focus of the media center is optimized

have nice day
OlivierQC

That is the changelog. I didn't post it because it's not relevant to first time users of the Android 7 firmware.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: PS4 on November 11, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
LINK DOWNLOAD ?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: OlivierQC on November 11, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
Hello futeko,

Delete it if you think it's better

Have nice day
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 02:17:47 PM
Is this the same version or updated after the closed community Beta testing? I see the same version number but with a more recent date indicating potential minor updates! A functional change list beyond the obvious OS upgrade from FW 1.08 would be nice.

Will give it a go for sure and share the findings here.  :D

It's an update on the first closed beta firmware.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: vogador on November 11, 2016, 02:19:45 PM
Nothing for Q5 Pro?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Nothing for Q5 Pro?

Not for this beta, sorry.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 03:00:14 PM
Links delayed whilst we test various combinations of firmware version installations to minimise chance of user brickage.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 11, 2016, 03:52:01 PM
NOTE Android 7  FW not have  play store yet, so this firmware is only for test not daily use  ;)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: OlivierQC on November 11, 2016, 04:13:23 PM
hello futeko,

have you any news about a new SDK and the 3D ISO issue ?

have nice day
OlivierQC
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 11, 2016, 04:17:28 PM
hello futeko,

have you any news about a new SDK and the 3D ISO issue ?

have nice day
OlivierQC

No new SDK yet. This is based on same SDK as the closed beta.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: andys on November 11, 2016, 09:01:35 PM
excuse where play store?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: pcristi on November 11, 2016, 11:13:04 PM
@andys please read topic before ask, answer already post on this topic by @looun
excuse where play store?
NOTE Android 7  FW not have  play store yet, so this firmware is only for test not daily use  ;)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: andys on November 11, 2016, 11:21:55 PM
@andys please read topic before ask, answer already post on this topic by @looun
excuse where play store?
NOTE Android 7  FW not have  play store yet, so this firmware is only for test not daily use  ;)

sorry I had not read
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: salalee on November 12, 2016, 06:21:48 AM
thanks futeko.
installing es file explorer (which is crucial to many) causes external hard drives identification issues on both android 6 and 7. that's why many major android tv boxes companies are still sticking on lollipop updates.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 12, 2016, 08:00:39 AM
Try X-pore is much better and work with android os and android tv.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: pcristi on November 12, 2016, 12:57:12 PM
Keep on mind on Android 7.0 mount point is change Ex: from /mnt/sda/sda1 to /mnt/media_rw/sda1

thanks futeko.
installing es file explorer (which is crucial to many) causes external hard drives identification issues on both android 6 and 7. that's why many major android tv boxes companies are still sticking on lollipop updates.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: salalee on November 12, 2016, 01:17:45 PM
thanks a lot looun. already aware of that.
pcristi thanks bro. when it comes to the UI , i believe other explorers are inferior to es.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 12, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
Installed it and have the following very quick observations:
- Media are labeled by the Android path now instead of C:, D: etc . When adding extra media in-flight labels will change also for the active ones. This is very confusing. Other brand media players support volume labels instead which in my view is the better implementation.
- Existing problems like DVD Interlacing introduced with FW 1.07 are not solved (still played as 25P and 30P)
- Setting the clock gave strange results, even managed to get different timezones on the menu and the VFD display. Finally it worked with manual setting the timezone first and next selecting auto for the timezone.
- Booting is far slower taking at least double time.
- Occasionally I get an error at boot "Process system isn't responding" options Closeapp/Wait

No fixes from the todo list only items on the changelist which were things broken with recent FW updates.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: q10pro1 on November 12, 2016, 04:06:37 PM
I would benefit by installing this beta compared to 1.8 or not?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 12, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
I would benefit by installing this beta compared to 1.8 or not?
OS related improvements found thus far:
- Volume control on top as a slider
- SAMBA functionally working now with all applications  (despite Disk size and free space reported as -1).
- KODI 17 support (but still needing Wrapper)
Looks reasonable stable to me.

Maybe some small fixes apply to you (see change list) but you get a few (minor) additional problems for free too.
The main reason for doing all this work is probably the big pressure to support KODI 17! Would have fixed the many pending problems first myself, this  regarding priority. 
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: q10pro1 on November 12, 2016, 06:00:04 PM
It will not be long for the final version or return to Android 5?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: salalee on November 12, 2016, 07:54:50 PM
It will not be long for the final version or return to Android 5?

well for me , it only took me 3 hrs to try it out and re-flashed the box with the lollipop firmware. as it has been mentioned before , it's not for everyday use and since i'm using the box on daily basis , i just had to reflash with 1.0.8 lollipop version.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: pcristi on November 12, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
HiMedia_GApps-7.0-20161111

Experimental add GApps Android 7.0 for HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
(base on PureNexus_Dynamic_GApps-7.x.x  - credits to author)
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0905/q476v23woqr7axlzg.jpg?size_id=5)
- Google Play Store 7.2.13.J-all[0] [PR] 138561921
- Google Play Services 10.0.84(434-137749526)
- YouTube 11.43.54 (adaptive 1080p)
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a31b/b2uqz9fnsx26lqezg.jpg?size_id=5)
- ES File Explorer 3.2.5.3 (user apps)
- Power Menu 1.0 (mod for HMD)
- restore mountShortCut to /mnt/smb /mnt/nfsShare
- hosts file AdAway update (12.11.2016)
Download: mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?ov38r7426m2dc9b).

Installation Instructions:
For safety reason please backup all your important information.
1. Rename HiMedia_GApps-7.0-20161111.zip to update.zip.
2. Copy update.zip to the root of a USB pen drive.
3. Insert the USB pen drive into any USB port of the Q10Pro.
4. Update from Menu (Settings/Upgrade/Local Upgrade)
5. The box will auto-reboot when finished.

Note:
- Test/Install only for HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
- Some permissions are still missing, YouTube Google TV, removed because of crashing after GApps install.

Use at your own risk.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: andys on November 12, 2016, 11:07:48 PM
thanks much better
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 12, 2016, 11:34:54 PM
Playing around with settings stumbled into a problem with the "HDCP2.2 Switch" option. When enabled the screen blanks without any possibility to recover. Also a re-boot/power-cycle won't help. Only a new emergency flash will restore the player again to default settings.

Also an almost good news. Samba is working and this time it is also accepted by all Windows programs. Free space and disk size reporting is still not working but now it seems to report a fixed value which works with (most?) applications. Windows Total Commander reports both as -1 so the fields are probably filled by just FFFFFF).

Installed the add-on from pcristi and also Android Total Commander without problems. For the time being will remain using FW 2.0 as my standard media player.  8)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: bennySB on November 13, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Playing around with settings stumbled into a problem with the "HDCP2.2 Switch" option. When enabled the screen blanks without any possibility to recover. Also a re-boot/power-cycle won't help. Only a new emergency flash will restore the player again to default settings.

Same at me.
There must be add an time based acception popup about The change.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: siempo2000 on November 13, 2016, 09:03:23 PM
Just installed this firmware and upgraded Kodi to 17.
Must say its disappointing to see audio pass-through with kodi 17 (videoplayer) still not working.
I was really hoping for this but now i have to stick to the wrapper  :'( .
Also i am wondering why this box is sold as 64bit while it is actually running 32bit  (see below)

[ro.product.board]: [bigfish]
[ro.product.brand]: [HiSTBAndroidV6]
[ro.product.cpu.abi]: [armeabi-v7a]
[ro.product.cpu.abi2]: [armeabi]
[ro.product.cpu.abilist]: [armeabi-v7a,armeabi]
[ro.product.cpu.abilist32]: [armeabi-v7a,armeabi]
[ro.product.cpu.abilist64]: []
[ro.product.device]: [Hi3798CV200]
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 14, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
Also i am wondering why this box is sold as 64bit while it is actually running 32bit
Forget the marketing hype of 64-bit. The HW can do it there is no doubt about it, but programs to take advantage from it is something completely different.

Did a lot of benchmarking/reading on Windows with 32-bit versus 64-bit OS. The practical experience is that 64-bit uses a lot more memory and on average is not any faster than 64-bit unless the programs used are written specifically for it. These programs must then use specific 64-bit instructions and or memory above 3 Gbyte. Even on Windows these are still exotic. On Android as used by media players going to an 64-bit OS would be very contra productive I can assure you as this box does not have the required large RAM memory for it.

Running W10 on an i7 processor with 32-bit and 4 GByte RAM (single channel DDR4) which is blazing fast (SSD installed obviously). No advantage for me to buy ( a lot) more RAM for 64-bit as my programs won't run any faster with it for sure (=this PC is Dual Boot 32-bit W10 and 64-bit W8.1). Even that i7 is an overkill in practice .
If you have the choice spend money for an SSD instead of spending it for a lot of RAM with 64-bit. Even a small SSD really makes a huge difference. An 8 year old  Dual-Core-Duo with 4G + SSD outperformed by far a new i5 with 16G both running  the same W7 64-bit installation!

For a media player spend money on an as fast as you can get SD-CARD. This specifically if Android 7 allows us to install programs on it?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 14, 2016, 08:04:36 AM
Just to see it in action with kodi 17....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6EbGlAGPRmXT2dzRmdXbnZfRWs/view
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 14, 2016, 08:56:53 AM
Just installed this firmware and upgraded Kodi to 17.
Must say its disappointing to see audio pass-through with kodi 17 (videoplayer) still not working.

google have forgotten to implementing

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=289735

Quote
Android API supports:
v24 (Android N): AC3, EAC3, DTS with the new IEC API, we miss hardware / software to implement dts-hd, truehd
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Binnugsay on November 14, 2016, 08:58:57 AM
Hello,

Have install as the request, everything ok about the install bu no network in automatic way, Why, did i miss something.... Did i have to set in manuel setting ? Thanks for your helps.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 14, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
Hello,

Have install as the request, everything ok about the install bu no network in automatic way, Why, did i miss something.... Did i have to set in manuel setting ? Thanks for your helps.

Can you please clarify exactly how there is no netowrk?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Binnugsay on November 14, 2016, 09:08:36 AM
Hello,

Have install as the request, everything ok about the install bu no network in automatic way, Why, did i miss something.... Did i have to set in manuel setting ? Thanks for your helps.

Can you please clarify exactly how there is no netowrk?

After installing the firmware in step 2, normaly we have after reboot the IP address and have network connection but no way, i swith off in manuel or On again and nothing. No problem before when i was in 1.08 connection. So
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 14, 2016, 10:17:21 AM
After installing the firmware in step 2, normaly we have after reboot the IP address and have network connection but no way, i swith off in manuel or On again and nothing. No problem before when i was in 1.08 connection. So
In fact installed twice (see problem report for the why)  and both times DHCP via Fixed Ethernet came up correctly without the need to change a setup parameter. Did not try Wi-Fi.

@ Futeko: A short feedback on various findings reported would be appreciated: problem confirmed, reported, can't reproduce, known etc.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Binnugsay on November 14, 2016, 10:28:10 AM
After installing the firmware in step 2, normaly we have after reboot the IP address and have network connection but no way, i swith off in manuel or On again and nothing. No problem before when i was in 1.08 connection. So
In fact installed twice (see problem report for the why)  and both times DHCP via Fixed Ethernet came up correctly without the need to change a setup parameter. Did not try Wi-Fi.

A short feedback on various findings reported would be appreciated.

Hello,

Do you mean that i have install again the firmware one more time !! and resolve that network problem. Thanks
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 14, 2016, 10:41:10 AM
Do you mean that i have install again the firmware one more time !! and resolve that network problem. Thanks
I would try Step-2 once more, presuming we are talking about Wired Ethernet and DHCP not working. Redoing Step-1 is superfluous I think.
You may first try if manually setting the required network parameters brings it up? Do the lights work at the back?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Binnugsay on November 14, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Do you mean that i have install again the firmware one more time !! and resolve that network problem. Thanks
I would try Step-2 once more, presuming we are talking about Wired Ethernet and DHCP not working. Redoing Step-1 is superfluous I think.
You may first try if manually setting the required network parameters brings it up? Do the lights work at the back?

Yes by default, the Network is ON like others firmware 1.07, 1.08... But no way in Ip address. Yes nothing change about my configuration from the network cables and lights is ok. Just before everything works fine when i donwgrade eo 2.00 to 1.08 frmware, juste for testing, so problem is coming from the beta 2.00 ;)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: siempo2000 on November 14, 2016, 11:29:58 AM
Also i am wondering why this box is sold as 64bit while it is actually running 32bit
Forget the marketing hype of 64-bit. The HW can do it there is no doubt about it, but programs to take advantage from it is something completely different.

Did a lot of benchmarking/reading on Windows with 32-bit versus 64-bit OS. The practical experience is that 64-bit uses a lot more memory and on average is not any faster than 64-bit unless the programs used are written specifically for it. These programs must then use specific 64-bit instructions and or memory above 3 Gbyte. Even on Windows these are still exotic. On Android as used by media players going to an 64-bit OS would be very contra productive I can assure you as this box does not have the required large RAM memory for it.

Running W10 on an i7 processor with 32-bit and 4 GByte RAM (single channel DDR4) which is blazing fast (SSD installed obviously). No advantage for me to buy ( a lot) more RAM for 64-bit as my programs won't run any faster with it for sure (=this PC is Dual Boot 32-bit W10 and 64-bit W8.1). Even that i7 is an overkill in practice .
If you have the choice spend money for an SSD instead of spending it for a lot of RAM with 64-bit. Even a small SSD really makes a huge difference. An 8 year old  Dual-Core-Duo with 4G + SSD outperformed by far a new i5 with 16G both running  the same W7 64-bit installation!

For a media player spend money on an as fast as you can get SD-CARD. This specifically if Android 7 allows us to install programs on it?

Yes i agree 64bit is not that important, however in my opinion if one sells it as being 64bit it should be 64bit.
Also the ARMv8 specification allows not only >4GB Memory but has increased register space so the ARMv8 processor will spend less time pulling data from memory = increased performance.
How would you like to buy a Ferrari that after you bought it turns out equipped with a 1300cc engine and when you ask about it you get "well  you are not allowed to drive faster than 80Km per hour anyway"

just doesn't feel right
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 14, 2016, 11:59:14 AM
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: mikemat on November 14, 2016, 12:25:37 PM
I've got question  about this update.

It's Android Nugat based on the Android TV or Android Smartphone version ?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Transit266 on November 16, 2016, 03:13:16 AM
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: siempo2000 on November 16, 2016, 06:06:34 AM
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 16, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 16, 2016, 09:33:44 AM
Also i am wondering why this box is sold as 64bit while it is actually running 32bit  (see below)

If you look at our product description for Q5/Q10 Pro you'll see that we don't mention 64bit anywhere. So perhaps next time you should buy from a retailer who understands better what they're selling.  ;)

Saying that, the ARM A53 core is 64bit ARMv8-A capable. The problem being that 64bit Android is not really practical or desirable at present.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 16, 2016, 10:20:31 AM
I've got question  about this update.

It's Android Nugat based on the Android TV or Android Smartphone version ?
Good question a formal Himedia answer would be appreciated. Updated replacing Android TV by Android Leanback!

From what I see it is the Android Smartphone version once more. With Android Leanback amongst others HDMI-CEC settings/options would have come straight from the OS. The choice for this OS version is a real differentiator with other competing products/brands coming with a substantial list of Pro's and Con's. As I also own a Zidoo X9S using Android Leanback 6.0 (for Linux) I can keep a close track of both approaches myself.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 16, 2016, 10:53:35 AM
I've got question  about this update.

It's Android Nugat based on the Android TV or Android Smartphone version ?
Good question a formal Himedia answer would be appreciated.

From what I see it is the Android Smartphone version once more. With Android TV amongst others HDMI-CEC settings/options would have come straight from the OS. The choice for this OS version is a real differentiator with other competing products/brands coming with a substantial list of Pro's and Con's. As I also own a Zidoo X9S using Android TV 6.0 (for Linux) I can keep a close track of both approaches myself.

i don't think Zidoo X9S have Android TV, for Android TV need lot of certification hardware and software.

Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 16, 2016, 11:51:11 AM
[i don't think Zidoo X9S have Android TV, for Android TV need lot of certification hardware and software.
I am pretty sure they are running Android Leanback, just go the Google Playstore with it and you will experience the difference yourself. The Realtek chipset + SDK is approved by Google and all platforms using RTD1295 will use Leanback for sure. My statement may be formulated  slightly incorrect confusing Android Leanback with Android TV. Android Leanback is the underlying OS and Android TV includes an APP package on top of it.

Don't ask me when something may be called Android TV exactly, but there are 2 different Android OS versions one for smartphones and one for media players inclusive TV's. The later version is normally referred to as Android Leanback. Often the total result is referred to as "SmartTV powered by Android" by TV makers, never see "Android Leanback" mentioned there.

Google TV probably  includes also specific APP's and licences not covered by Android Leanback? Google is not really open about all this. >:(
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 16, 2016, 03:52:30 PM
I am pretty sure they are running Android Leanback, just go the Google Playstore with it and you will experience the difference yourself. The Realtek chipset + SDK is approved by Google and all platforms using RTD1295 will use Leanback for sure. My statement may be formulated  slightly incorrect confusing Android Leanback with Android TV. Android Leanback is the underlying OS and Android TV includes an APP package on top of it.

Don't ask me when something may be called Android TV exactly, but there are 2 different Android OS versions one for smartphones and one for media players inclusive TV's. The later version is normally referred to as Android Leanback. Often the total result is referred to as "SmartTV powered by Android" by TV makers, never see "Android Leanback" mentioned there.

Google TV probably  includes also specific APP's and licences not covered by Android Leanback? Google is not really open about all this. >:(

Google Play Store on Zidoo X9S looks exactly the same as on Q5/Q10 Pro. I have an X9S here. What is meant to be the difference?

As to Leanback, isn't it just this launcher?: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher&hl=en_GB
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: looun on November 16, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
google play store for Android N of Q10 Pro:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/w9eeoov7ebf8pkf/update_googleplay.zip

For safety reason please backup all your important information.

step:
- un-install youtube
- download update_googleplay.zip
- remane update_googleplay.zip to update.zip
- copy update.zip to USB
-  Insert USB stick into Q10 Pro USB 2.0 port
- Update from Menu (Settings/Upgrade/Local Upgrade)
- The box will auto-reboot when finished.
 

if youtube leanback not work install from APK YouTube for Android TV (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube-for-android-tv/youtube-for-android-tv-1-3-11-release/youtube-android-tv-1-3-11-android-apk-download/)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 16, 2016, 09:11:03 PM
Google Play Store on Zidoo X9S looks exactly the same as on Q5/Q10 Pro. I have an X9S here. What is meant to be the difference?

As to Leanback, isn't it just this launcher?: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher&hl=en_GB
No it is not only the Launcher. The options under settings are typically different too and Leanback has no Notification Bar interfacing for obvious reasons.  Leanback has implicit HDMI-CEC support etc. It is my practical experience that with many players and TV's based on Leanback only those APP's specifically designed for big screens (no touchscreen expected, wired ethernet instead of Mobile 3G/4G, no GPS expected)  and not those for smartphones are supported and can be installed from the Playstore (=good news and bad news). Many can still be installed by an APK directly but this neither is valid for many.

Zidoo/Realtek seems to have modified multiple things from the standard Leanback OS. The biggest change is that they run Android for Linux sharing the Linux  kernel with OpenWrt. This particular Android OS version does not exist at all for smartphones by my knowledge. In theory it should be feasible to create a KODI version running straight on that Linux kernel too avoiding the need for OpenElec / FreeElec dual boot implementations.

I am not an Android wizard in any way. The Google variants/approach for big screens versus smartphones/tablets remains very obscure for me.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: salalee on November 17, 2016, 05:57:46 AM
google play store for Android N of Q10 Pro:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/w9eeoov7ebf8pkf/update_googleplay.zip

For safety reason please backup all your important information.

step:
- un-install youtube
- download update_googleplay.zip
- remane update_googleplay.zip to update.zip
- copy update.zip to USB
-  Insert USB stick into Q10 Pro USB 2.0 port
- Update from Menu (Settings/Upgrade/Local Upgrade)
- The box will auto-reboot when finished.
 

if youtube leanback not work install from APK YouTube for Android TV (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube-for-android-tv/youtube-for-android-tv-1-3-11-release/youtube-android-tv-1-3-11-android-apk-download/)

awesome bro. big thanks....
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: wiz on November 17, 2016, 06:51:45 AM
hello futeko,

have you any news about a new SDK and the 3D ISO issue ?

have nice day
OlivierQC

No new SDK yet. This is based on same SDK as the closed beta.

Without a new SDK is there going to be much point / benefit in N?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 17, 2016, 08:56:28 AM
Without a new SDK is there going to be much point / benefit in N?
Yes there is! Many are literally screaming for KODI 17 support and that is already reported as working here. I am pretty sure that when KODI 17 becomes stable it will become the default KODI version being bundled.

Other advanced N goodies like PIP and Split Screen will require a matching SDK, but will be very nice when available on huge screens. :)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Paralax0n on November 18, 2016, 09:13:58 AM
On the official Himedia Website the Q10 is promoted with Andoroid N already but it sn't downloadable. Anyone info when its officially out?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 18, 2016, 09:18:08 AM
On the official Himedia Website the Q10 is promoted with Andoroid N already but it sn't downloadable. Anyone info when its officially out?

Possibly today.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Paralax0n on November 18, 2016, 09:24:15 AM
Thank you. Hopefully it will be released. I also hope that there will be drivers in it to connect my firetv remote via bluetooth.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 18, 2016, 02:16:33 PM
On the official Himedia Website the Q10 is promoted with Andoroid N already but it sn't downloadable. Anyone info when its officially out?

Possibly today.

Only for Q10 or for q5 also?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 18, 2016, 02:57:22 PM
I now expect it tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

For both Q5 and Q10 Pro.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: mikemat on November 18, 2016, 07:51:00 PM
In the Android 5.1  version is one big issue.

I've got connected Q10 Pro over HDMI to the Denon AVR-X4100W receiver and next to the LG TV.

I'm use MediaCenter  at all to play media files (audio and video).

When you play some video file and turn off TV nothing happens, sound is hear further, that's is very good.
When you play AUDIO file via MediaCenter or use YOUTUBE or SPOTIFY and you turn OFF TV, music after a few seconds will stop.   On the Roku player and Popcorn Hour player music still plays always after turn off TV.

Can you fix that issue in the new update?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: haovh_85 on November 19, 2016, 03:50:19 PM
Hi futeko.com,
When will new build release?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: vogador on November 19, 2016, 05:39:20 PM
Next week i think
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: asaf27064 on November 20, 2016, 12:15:44 AM
I now expect it tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

For both Q5 and Q10 Pro.

what about the reversed hebrew subtitle problem in  Himedia player
will it be fixed?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: PS4 on November 20, 2016, 10:35:41 AM
Hi futeko.com,
When will new build release?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 20, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
google play store for Android N of Q10 Pro:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/w9eeoov7ebf8pkf/update_googleplay.zip

For safety reason please backup all your important information.

if youtube leanback not work install from APK YouTube for Android TV (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube-for-android-tv/youtube-for-android-tv-1-3-11-release/youtube-android-tv-1-3-11-android-apk-download/)
Followed the procedure and both the Playstore and YouTube works with it.

The first thing I installed was "Primitive FTPd" but there is no way to control it for setup.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: tmihai20 on November 20, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
I am still using Android 5.1.1, but with the modded firmware. I am using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lutey.FTPServer. It works pretty well without any issues, it can be autostarted at boot as well. Waiting patiently for Android N firmware, but My Q10 Pro is working very well with 5.1.1.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 20, 2016, 04:45:34 PM
had a hang-up with black screen when ending watching an MKV.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: q10pro1 on November 20, 2016, 06:48:04 PM
still many bugs?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 21, 2016, 07:36:11 AM
still many bugs?
To be honest not more than on the previous regular FW's. It is pretty stable and with the add-ons also fully functional. Not all APP's want to run under 7 but that is not to blame Himedia for.

Very strange after installing the add-on's I can't reproduce the error at booting anymore and it boots also fast/normal as with 5. Maybe when plugging the USB-bay again? Now using the Internal HDD only for testing.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 21, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
Android 7 firmware release will be tomorrow or Wednesday.

Apologies for the false alert last week.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 21, 2016, 09:05:54 AM
Does PIP works on 7?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 21, 2016, 09:24:50 AM
Does PIP works on 7?

No. PIP is an Android TV feature. The update is to Android 7 OS, not changing the OS to Android TV OS.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 21, 2016, 09:56:09 AM
Does PIP works on 7?

No. PIP is an Android TV feature. The update is to Android 7 OS, not changing the OS to Android TV OS.
Maybe PIP is. But split screen is a generic Android 7 feature also available on smartphones. Saw it on the release notes.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 21, 2016, 12:49:13 PM
https://www.media24store.nl/blogs/nieuws/himedia-komt-met-android-n-nougat-voor-de-himedia/
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: MrT on November 21, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
Android 7 firmware release will be tomorrow or Wednesday.

Apologies for the false alert last week.

thank you  :)

any news about  the Imprex 2.0 with this new firmware ?  (sharpness problem , etc etc )
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 21, 2016, 01:33:10 PM
https://www.media24store.nl/blogs/nieuws/himedia-komt-met-android-n-nougat-voor-de-himedia/
It mentions both split screen and PIP explicitly. So somebody has the wrong story there.  8)
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: tmihai20 on November 21, 2016, 02:54:38 PM
It would really be a wonder to get PIP. Splitscreen is not so hard to implement, I saw it activated on smartphones. A few days of waiting won't hurt us. We have waited this long.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: q10pro1 on November 21, 2016, 04:46:24 PM
the new Android 7 we have to install all the patches as the old Andoid 5 or not?
eg stop button on the remote control etc etc.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: MiraOne on November 21, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
I am wondering if the new Android 7 based firmware still uses the Wrapper or if the SOC is supported directly?
If it still uses the wrapper: Is HiMedia working on directly supporting the SOC without wrapper?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: magnifico on November 21, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 22, 2016, 07:37:28 AM
Android 7 firmware release will be tomorrow or Wednesday.

Apologies for the false alert last week.

thank you  :)

any news about  the Imprex 2.0 with this new firmware ?  (sharpness problem , etc etc )
Anybody knows?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Nice Monkey on November 22, 2016, 08:15:23 AM
The Beta is essentially a port from FW 1.0.8 without any functional updates. So only new problems were added related to Android 7 being introduced (which are few and not very big). The only goody straight available is KODI 17 working (needing the wrapper for HD audio).
What the new FW 2.0.1 will bring for functional update is wait and see.
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: Paralax0n on November 22, 2016, 11:04:26 AM
Is it right that i don't have to use the wrapper with the beta in case of using KODI 17? I don't need HD Audio.  :o
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: tmihai20 on November 22, 2016, 11:45:57 AM
I also have a request for Himedia, I guess this one goes to @futeko.com. On a previous TV Box I could run HBO Go without any issues on wired connection. On Q10 Pro I am faced with 2 issues: first one is that this app (and possibly others) need to be fooled into thinking it is using a WiFi connection (I honestly do not know the other firmware was built). The second one is related to virtually unplugging the HDMI so that this app (and others) do not detect it (it is about setting a parameter in the kernel /sys/devices/virtual/switch/hdmi/state to zero - I am writing the path by heart, but is should be readable on any tox pretty easily).

I am a little annoyed by the fact that HBO Go worked on that cheap, not-recommended TV box and it does not work on this one. I could not fix it even with root or some apks I found (basically this Xposed module http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.lemonsqueeze.fakewificonnection and an app called HDMI Virtual Switch - that sets that kernel variable).
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: NPoser on November 22, 2016, 12:09:51 PM
new firmware 2.0.1 posted on the russian forum 4pda
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: onyxx1995 on November 22, 2016, 12:12:37 PM
It is out! ;D
Waiting for futeko's links.

If someone wants quick:

https://yadi.sk/d/m-qF3osVzDFXj

Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: q10pro1 on November 22, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
how to install?
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: tmihai20 on November 22, 2016, 12:24:21 PM
The Beta needed 2 packages. Is it safe to install over our existing setup? We need an official response from futeko.com at least :)

Edit: It appears that the link from the russian forum is still for 2.0.0 (judging from build.prop) HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-17.181855
Title: Re: Q10 Pro Android 7 FW PUBLIC BETA HMD-2.0.0 2016-11-10.213904
Post by: futeko.com on November 22, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
We've had no confirmation of official firmware release from HiMedia so I advise people to wait.

There won't be an official release from us until tomorrow morning UK time.

But I would say it's 99% certain that tomorrow AM we'll have new official Android 7 FW (Q5 Pro and Q10 Pro) with changelog.  We'll create forum threads as usual for the Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro versions.  :)