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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: LeFric on May 23, 2016, 11:30:55 PM

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Post by: LeFric on May 23, 2016, 11:30:55 PM
I shall report the resolutions offered by the HiMedia Q10 Pro (with the firmware HMD-1.0.1 2016-03-22.170326) in SDR, DOLBY and HDR 10 along the JVC DLA-RS500E:


If you activate the HDMI auto adaptation, wherever it is, we went to 1080p/60Hz - YCbCr444 - 10 bits.


SDR

1080p/50 y 60Hz

720p/60Hz

2160p/24Hz

2160p/30Hz

2160p/50Hz

2160p/60Hz


DOLBY y HDR 10

2160p/24Hz

2160p/30Hz

2160p/50Hz

2160p/60Hz




You should add to the menu of acceptance / rejection 5 seconds and the EDID of JVC is about 12 seconds and the image appear the menu has disappeared.
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Post by: magnifico on May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
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Post by: looun on May 25, 2016, 12:00:19 PM
Quote from: magnifico on May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
Plus the Q10pro will never ever negotiate " YCbCr444 - 10 bits" as basic picture mode. That would be 4:2:0 8bits.

2160p/60Hz  YCbCr444 - 10 bits is NOT support by  HDMI 2.0 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_2.0), required more than 18 Gbit/s .

(http://hd.club.tw/data/attachment/forum/201605/24/104536pa7q6jhh66aaehph.jpg)
(http://hd.club.tw/data/attachment/forum/201605/24/104606fnsnv6y1x6o3qrrq.jpg.thumb.jpg)
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Post by: LeFric on May 25, 2016, 03:30:50 PM
I shall report the resolutions offered by the HiMedia Q10 Pro (with the firmware HMD-1.0.1 2016-03-22.170326) in SDR, DOLBY and HDR 10 along the OLED LG 55EG920V:


If you activate the HDMI auto adaptation, wherever it is, we went to 1080p/50Hz - YCbCr444 - 10 bits.


SDR

1080p/50 y 60Hz

720p/60Hz

2160p/24Hz

2160p/25Hz

2160p/30Hz

2160p/50Hz

2160p/60Hz


DOLBY y HDR 10

2160p/24Hz

2160p/25Hz

2160p/30Hz

2160p/50Hz

2160p/60Hz




EYE! Being a native 10-bit panel 4k all that is synchronized to 8 bits as I have shown above ...
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Post by: magnifico on May 25, 2016, 09:14:14 PM
Quote from: looun on May 25, 2016, 12:00:19 PM
Quote from: magnifico on May 24, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
Plus the Q10pro will never ever negotiate " YCbCr444 - 10 bits" as basic picture mode. That would be 4:2:0 8bits.

2160p/60Hz  YCbCr444 - 10 bits is NOT support by  HDMI 2.0 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_2.0), required more than 18 Gbit/s .

(http://hd.club.tw/data/attachment/forum/201605/24/104536pa7q6jhh66aaehph.jpg)
(http://hd.club.tw/data/attachment/forum/201605/24/104606fnsnv6y1x6o3qrrq.jpg.thumb.jpg)

Since Q10Pro wants to show HDR....it needs HDMI2.0a
(http://kompendium.infotip.de/files/wdb/GRAFIK/2400_SCHNITTSTELLEN/2420_HDMI/TAB_2420_01_04_Res.gif)

As you can see...10BIT is BELOW 18GBps!
My cable:
(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/ff4690-1464207913.jpg) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=ff4690-1464207913.jpg)
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Post by: looun on May 27, 2016, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: magnifico on May 25, 2016, 09:14:14 PM
As you can see...10BIT is BELOW 18GBps!

where ?
2160p/60Hz  YCbCr444 - 10 bit need TMDS 22,28 Gbit/s     , HDMI 2.0a it's limited up 18 Gbit/s .


same time you are boring   ???
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Post by: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
If tmds is the number to go allmighty looun...
WHY ARE CABLES CERTIFIED @18GBPS???
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Post by: looun on May 27, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
If tmds is the number to go allmighty looun...
WHY ARE CABLES CERTIFIED @18GBPS???

18GBPS  = HDMI 2.0a

> 18GBPS = HDMI 2.1 or maybe  HDMI 2.2  there is not standard yet

ALL  new UHD blu ray disc are MAX at 2160p@23,976Hz  YCbCr420 - 10 bit !

there are not any content at 422, 442 444 ....
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Post by: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 04:50:03 PM
This is NO ANSWER to my question....just bla bla numbers bla bla!
PANASONIC UB900 outputs even 12Bit HDR 4:4:4. I have people that can give prove of that!
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Post by: vxsys on May 27, 2016, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: magnifico on May 27, 2016, 04:50:03 PM
This is NO ANSWER to my question....just bla bla numbers bla bla!
PANASONIC UB900 outputs even 12Bit HDR 4:4:4. I have people that can give prove of that!

Panasonic has the best video output and video processing.
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Post by: magnifico on May 28, 2016, 12:06:26 AM
Yeah sure....useless upscaling of 10Bit 4:2:0 to 12bit 4:4:4.
Just pumping up the bandwidth usage  ::)

Btw. Samsung does not make such a deal out of it....K8500 does output 12bit as well....  ;D
Still useless.... Anything more than 10bit 4:2:0/2 is just blowing up cables.
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Post by: looun on May 30, 2016, 10:28:55 AM
2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB requires 22.28Gbps.
(3840+560) x (2160+90) x 60 (fps) x 30 (color depth) x 10/8 = 22.275Gbps

22.275Gb/s is more than is currently supported by HDMI 2.0, confirmed by wesk05 ( technical  very expert , i reference for kodi forum. ) http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888&pid=2346989#pid2346989

end of the story , post must me closed.
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Post by: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 (https://metrahometheater.com/ehd/cables/velox/ehv-hd10.html) I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.
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Post by: looun on May 30, 2016, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 (https://metrahometheater.com/ehd/cables/velox/ehv-hd10.html) I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.
how?
Do you have a TRUE 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB video?
 i don't think ,so what do you have test?

"VELOX UHD cables deliver a verified 18 Gb/s HD signal for higher resolutions" not  22.275Gbps, because  HDMI 2.0a can not like write noggin and wesk05

 
for me this post is a spam!  also there are not any content at YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB
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Post by: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Through a GeForce GTX 980 DCP film bag ...


P.D.: In the previous post I made a mistake being so:  2160p60 12-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB
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Post by: magnifico on May 30, 2016, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 (https://metrahometheater.com/ehd/cables/velox/ehv-hd10.html) I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.

I just bought one of those...
https://www.monsterproducts.com/Black-Platinum-UltraHD-HDMI-Cable-Ethernet-Performance-Indicators
FAR beyond HDMI2.0a @ 27gbps!!!
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Post by: looun on May 30, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: magnifico on May 30, 2016, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: LeFric on May 30, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
You are wrong !!!

With my cable VELOX EV-HD10 (https://metrahometheater.com/ehd/cables/velox/ehv-hd10.html) I'm going 2160p60 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB.

I just bought one of those...
https://www.monsterproducts.com/Black-Platinum-UltraHD-HDMI-Cable-Ethernet-Performance-Indicators
FAR beyond HDMI2.0a @ 27gbps!!!
are you so crazy to pay 99$ for a cable? when is equal to 19$ cable ... o my god
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Post by: magnifico on May 30, 2016, 10:07:48 PM
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Post by: looun on May 30, 2016, 10:17:57 PM