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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: Timmyboy on April 15, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
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Hi folks,
I currently use a Mede8er X10003D with a 3tb internal drive, which I will be re-using in the Q10 Pro I've pre-ordered.
I've already copied all the content I want to keep off the drive to my Windows PC, so just wanted to check what the best way is to prepare the HDD and then copy data onto the Q10?
My assumption is:
1) Format the HDD in Windows - what format?
2) Install to the Q10 Pro - will this then just 'work' in Android?
3) Use as a USB slave on my Windows PC and copy the content back over?
Thanks in advance.
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1) Format the HDD in Windows - what format?
2) Install to the Q10 Pro - will this then just 'work' in Android?
3) Use as a USB slave on my Windows PC and copy the content back over?
Thanks in advance.
1) For Internal HDD use GPT and NTFS (should be the default)
2) Yes, it will be detected and usable straight away.
3) Using USB-Slave to PC USB-3 Host port will give Drive Max Speed for copying. No other method will be faster.
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Excellent, thanks for the reply.
Just got my shipping confirmation too :)
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Just got my shipping confirmation too :)
Mine will be next week apparently. Takes a few days longer anyway to arrive over here.
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no confirmation yet (italy) :-[
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Could i have an official confirmation if the q10 Pro can support 8tb internal hard disk ? Because a member wrote to me that it only supports up to 6tb.
If so, the Seagate 8tb that i have on mind , has a speed of 5900 rpm.Is it combatible or not ? If not which 8tb Hdd would you suggest ?
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Would this HDD be a suitable internal HDD for the q10pro? WD Red 6tb: WD60EFRX
Thanks for a quick answer
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Would this HDD be a suitable internal HDD for the q10pro? WD Red 6tb: WD60EFRX
Thanks for a quick answer
Not really Red are meant for Raid implementations. Pink, Blue or Green are better choices.
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1) Format the HDD in Windows - what format?
2) Install to the Q10 Pro - will this then just 'work' in Android?
3) Use as a USB slave on my Windows PC and copy the content back over?
Thanks in advance.
1) For Internal HDD use GPT and NTFS (should be the default)
2) Yes, it will be detected and usable straight away.
3) Using USB-Slave to PC USB-3 Host port will give Drive Max Speed for copying. No other method will be faster.
What about cluster size, Windows give options 512;1024;... So which one is suitable for Q10 pro. I read your post about this but still confused about cluster size. Thanks
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[What about cluster size, Windows give options 512;1024;... So which one is suitable for Q10 pro. I read your post about this but still confused about cluster size. Thanks
Normally Default (4K) cluster size should do just fine. I got one report of somebody working with 8K only.
Don't use smaller than 4K that won't work.
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Would this HDD be a suitable internal HDD for the q10pro? WD Red 6tb: WD60EFRX
Thanks for a quick answer
Not really Red are meant for Raid implementations. Pink, Blue or Green are better choices.
Why is that not a good choice? I mean the idea is to buy a Synology DS416play when it comes out...so I could switch the harddrives between the systems...
What are the advantages of green, blue & pink?
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Why is that not a good choice? I mean the idea is to buy a Synology DS416play when it comes out...so I could switch the harddrives between the systems...
What are the advantages of green, blue & pink?
An Internal Disk should mainly: be silent, use little power, produce low heat. WD Green (now replaced by Blue will do that for you. They also have the lowest price/TB of all flavors. Speed and support for many parallel streams as supported by Red or Black is not important for a media player.
It will work though, so feel free to use it. Differences are in the controllers firmware, caching, rotation speed, auto spin-down, price/TB etc.
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I agree with Nice Monkey. Very fast drives are unnecessary for media. The extra performance won't be used. Better to have something quiet and cool.
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both the WD blue and WD red are 5400 rpm..so whats the difference when it comes to speed and performance?
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[What about cluster size, Windows give options 512;1024;... So which one is suitable for Q10 pro. I read your post about this but still confused about cluster size. Thanks
Normally Default (4K) cluster size should do just fine. I got one report of somebody working with 8K only.
Don't use smaller than 4K that won't work.
Thank Nice Monkey, it work wit 4K cluster size. My first trial did not work because of the common mistake : SATA pin is not fully attached. When I try the 2nd time, the led screen on Q10 flash for 2 second. This is maybe an indication for successful attachment of SATA connection.
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@Transit266 I have the same problem, It seems that my HDD (WD30Green) is not recognize at all.
It's formatted in GPT / NTFS / 4k, but nothing. You talk about a led, can you give me more information about this led, where it is and when it flash?
Thanks.
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@Transit266 I have the same problem, It seems that my HDD (WD30Green) is not recognize at all.
It's formatted in GPT / NTFS / 4k, but nothing. You talk about a led, can you give me more information about this led, where it is and when it flash?
Thanks.
Try to push the SATA pin harder, then the whole touch screen (up, down, left, right... touch keys) of Q10 pro flash for a second. Then turn on Q10 Pro and it shows Hard Drive on native Media Center
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Btw, I noted that there is hidden symbol "HDD", "USB" on the left of Clock screen. But I dont know what is indicated for. My first thought is that when we attach USB or Hard Disk it will light up. Futeko, could you explain this indicator for us?
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It's formatted in GPT / NTFS / 4k, but nothing. You talk about a led, can you give me more information about this led, where it is and when it flash?
Thanks.
Always need the output of the "fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo x: " command as documented first. Only with that I can see what might be happening and what type of drive you got.
Now that WD started shipping Native 4K drives (even for 2TB and maybe even smaller) we got an additional format to deal with. Don't have one of those myself yet (in the future all will be like this). These are sold as stand alone drives and also used for their new USB3 enclosures.
For correct working the SATA driver (Internal HDD) now also needs to support GPT, NTFS with 4K sectors. Thus far this always was GPT with NTFS and 512 Byte sectors not 4K.
Via USB and a translating Bridge it all worked with MBR, NTFS and 4K Sectors. You probably can reformat a Native 4K drive to this if it was sold with GPT instead of MBR. Never saw any media player supporting GPT via USB but Himedia answered that Q10 Pro does (asked that earlier). It will be a serious problem if it does not.
For small disks < 2.2 TB MBR, NTFS with 512 Byte sectors was used regardless internal or external. That time is gone now for at least some WD new HDD's.
My Q10 Pro arrived yesterday and did the HDD tests first.
Tried a large number of HDD (WD and Seagate from 2 TB to 6 TB) both Internal and External via USB. Detection is fast and reliable. No differences found with the existing tutorial as is. What I can't test is HDD support for Native 4K drives as I don't own any yet.
The USB External Docking test for > 2TB (= HDD as used Internal) failed. A HDD is NOT detected, but standard MBR up to 2 TB will work this way without problems.
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Btw, I noted that there is hidden symbol "HDD", "USB" on the left of Clock screen. But I dont know what is indicated for. My first thought is that when we attach USB or Hard Disk it will light up. Futeko, could you explain this indicator for us?
They are unused see:
http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=691.0
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