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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: hdmkv on April 13, 2016, 12:27:58 AM
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April 17 update: Full review and new video have now been posted. (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888)
Some early impressions... I'm already mostly impressed! Compared to pre-production sample I've had since February, the production (mass release) box just coming out now...
- Does everything well that the pre-production sample does; a relief!
- Does NOT have HiMediaWrapper pre-installed! (The APK HiMedia provided me for the pre-production sample thankfully works w/production box, but they should really pre-install this and provide it for download)
- Does perfect DD+ 5.1 and 7.1 bitstreaming (which the pre-production sample only passed standard DD5.1 for)
- Still can't flip eyes for right-eye first 3D BD's (just as w/pre-production sample; HiMedia, please fix this!)
- Kodi 17 nightlies install fine, but the 'back' function does NOT work. So, had to use Kodi 16 RC2 instead for now
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The wrapper you are using is the same of the one for Q10 4K3D? Is not, please, could You share
I am waiting for first batch shipment and I want to be ready to play ;)
regards
Luca
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The wrapper will be available for download via a stickied thread on this forum before first stock gets to customers.
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Thanks for the initial impressions! I look forward to reading your thorough testing.
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Can you show some photos of the front LCD display with the various segments lit up ..... ie the different audio/video signal identification ?
Thanks
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I just received Q10 Pro from himedia vietnam, really eager to test this evening with my receiver Base V20HD ^^.
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Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working as I already mentioned.
Full review will be posted here (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888) by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!
4K is awesome. 3D is awesome. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! No real-world 4K will ever go that high! PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!
Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.
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I tested my Q10 Pro last night. Everything is ok and smooth, heavy game play smooth as well (e.g Asphalt 8). However, the color on the tivi does not satisfy me. Is there any way we can adjust color so that it look more deep and bold?
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Games are not really what Q10 Pro is best suited for... rather, optimal video playback! Anyway, try playing w/Imprex Engine 2.0 settings. There's a vibrant or game mode if I recall correctly that boosts contrast and saturation. Just don't use this for videos.
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Games are not really what Q10 Pro is best suited for... rather, optimal video playback! Anyway, try playing w/Imprex Engine 2.0 settings. There's a vibrant or game mode if I recall correctly that boosts contrast and saturation. Just don't use this for videos.
Thanks, I'll try Imprex Engine after work today. I heard about Imprex Engine already and I thought that it's just on as default. Overall, this box is really good at this price (154$). The default himedia player already satisfy me with passthrough capacity for every kind of audio format (DD plus, Ex, true HD, Atmos), all has been shown by my receiver. 3D iso a bit stutter but for my home theater system, full HD is the only target.
Just one more thing, some of Androids box can be set in standby mode by pressing red power button on remote, is there any way that I can enable this feature instead of boot from the beginning all the time.
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Just one more thing, some of Androids box can be set in standby mode by pressing red power button on remote, is there any way that I can enable this feature instead of boot from the beginning all the time.
According to a Chinese evaluation it consumed 5 W in Sleep mode. Idle mode was measured at 7 W so leaving it powered on has almost the same effect. Within Europe (and probably US too) that is not allowed anymore and it must be shutdown as it may consume max. 1 W in standby. I will measure this when I get the box.
It seems this SoC was not really designed for low power consumption, but more for optional performance. The FAN is essential also as a consequence even without an Internal HDD.
Special attention for BD-3D ISO evaluation please as that seems to be the main weak point at the moment:
- Bit of stuttering?
- Left eye - right eye option missing
- Audio gradually moving out of sync
Not reported yet is correct subtitle support for External and Hard-coded subtitles with 3D
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Just one more thing, some of Androids box can be set in standby mode by pressing red power button on remote, is there any way that I can enable this feature instead of boot from the beginning all the time.
Not reported yet is correct subtitle support for External and Hard-coded subtitles with 3D
subtitle it's my first priority.
no issues with subtitle , i do all test in english with ita subtitle ;-)
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I want to ask how does the PQ in FullHD compares with the Himedia 900b that uses the Realtek chip.I have a Pioneer plasma TV so my main concern for now is only the quality of the picture in FullHd.
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I want to ask how does the PQ in FullHD compares with the Himedia 900b that uses the Realtek chip.I have a Pioneer plasma TV so my main concern for now is only the quality of the picture in FullHd.
you can see my photo from VT30 plasma Tv hear http://himediapro.blogspot.it/ ,
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I want to ask how does the PQ in FullHD compares with the Himedia 900b that uses the Realtek chip.I have a Pioneer plasma TV so my main concern for now is only the quality of the picture in FullHd.
In my opinion Q5/Q10 Pro picture quality is significantly better than 900B, or any other of the Realtek based media players.
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Are we still oncourse for dispatching today (friday) ?
I have a new Yamaha Atmos receiver thats lonely :P
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Patience :)
He's doing what he can...
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In my opinion Q5/Q10 Pro picture quality is significantly better than 900B, or any other of the Realtek based media players.
+1. Realtek PQ has always been on the soft side, and support for forced subs never came. Q10 Pro supports latter in MKV's at least, but haven't tested in full BD structures like 'Avatar'.
Re: stutter, I'm not seeing it, but only tested 5-min or less samples so far. Will need to watch full movies. Q10 Pro is playing 300Mbps Jellyfish clips w/zero issues, which is quite amazing, and more than ample headroom for 4K.
One other issue is 10-bit HDR videos, which don't play for me. My 4K display is 8-bit, but the HDR clip should still play when in SDR mode. It did w/a previous firmware on the pre-production sample... so HiMedia should be able to address this.
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Added bit more info here, in response to questions. (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888&pid=2311546#pid2311546)
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Are we still oncourse for dispatching today (friday) ?
I have a new Yamaha Atmos receiver thats lonely :P
Most will go out today. Stock only arrived last this morning so we're doing our best.
We'll email all customers who's Q10Pro has gone out before 9pm UK time with tracking #.
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Are we still oncourse for dispatching today (friday) ?
I have a new Yamaha Atmos receiver thats lonely :P
Most will go out today. Stock only arrived last this morning so we're doing our best.
We'll email all customers who's Q10Pro has gone out before 9pm UK time with tracking #.
Fingers crossed :)
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Fingers crossed :)
Yours hasn't gone out. It's a free sample so, to be fair to the paying customers, it's at the back of the queue.
It will go out Monday, as will the ~40% of batch#1 Q10 Pro that we didn't get out today.
Stock arrived later than we wanted today and the Q10 Pro is a big bulky thing to pack. Not the fastest. Sorry to those who'll have to wait a couple more days, it would have been better if the weekend (no Royal Mail post) wasn't in the way.
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I would guess that most wont receive until Monday anyway, thanks to RM, so a couple of extra days wont make much difference.....honest! ;)
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Fingers crossed :)
Yours hasn't gone out. It's a free sample so, to be fair to the paying customers, it's at the back of the queue.
It will go out Monday, as will the ~40% of batch#1 Q10 Pro that we didn't get out today.
Stock arrived later than we wanted today and the Q10 Pro is a big bulky thing to pack. Not the fastest. Sorry to those who'll have to wait a couple more days, it would have been better if the weekend (no Royal Mail post) wasn't in the way.
No problem mate, i understand! Have a good weekend!
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Hi all.
I ordered my q10 pro 2 days ago. I'm really looking forward to getting it, it will be replacing my popcorn hour A410.
For those who already have one how is the 4k upscaling? Are we talking as good as say the oppo blu ray players?
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HiMedia Q10 Pro unboxing in Lithuania: https://youtu.be/c6CQXqVBQzg
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Full review and new video posted. (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=265888)
Let me know what you guys think.
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A question:
On the X6 Pro with Android 5 I saw the first time, that a player uses the real Harddisk names (for example "Action") instead of the Android own drive names like sdb2 sdc3 and so on...
The X6 Pro shows the real drive names in the normal explorer and in their Kodi explorer.
Is this made of the Android 5 System. resp. does the Q10 Pro too show the Harddisk names, or does it still show the Anrdoid own drive names?
And if the Q10 Pro still shows the nothing saying Android drive names, will this be changed in the future?
I am asking, because I have several HDs plugged to my player, and with the Android own drive names most of the time it is a fortune, to find the HD I want to watch a movie from. Its always a gamble/hit and miss. :-[
Thanx.
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Hello?
Anybody here, who has the Q10 Pro, and is able to answer?
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I didn't give my HDD a 'proper' name when formatting, so can't answer conclusively I'm afraid - you can of course change the name of a source in Kodi when adding it, so you could just add your drives as new sources and name them as you want?
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Hm, in Kodi I can not add them, they are already in, as soon as I plug them to my old Q5 4k3D with Kodi 15.2.
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A question:
On the X6 Pro with Android 5 I saw the first time, that a player uses the real Harddisk names (for example "Action") instead of the Android own drive names like sdb2 sdc3 and so on...
The X6 Pro shows the real drive names in the normal explorer and in their Kodi explorer.
Is this made of the Android 5 System. resp. does the Q10 Pro too show the Harddisk names, or does it still show the Anrdoid own drive names?
And if the Q10 Pro still shows the nothing saying Android drive names, will this be changed in the future?
I am asking, because I have several HDs plugged to my player, and with the Android own drive names most of the time it is a fortune, to find the HD I want to watch a movie from. Its always a gamble/hit and miss. :-[
Thanx.
X6 Pro only does this with it's own file explorer and it's own custom version of Kodi.
So in all other apps it uses standard Android/Linux drive naming convention.
Although this might seem like a good feature I would suggest that it is in fact of very limited use as it is restricted to 2 apps. Android/Linux drive naming is not complicated and it is of benefit to a user of Android to understand it. What happens when the X6 Pro user decides to upgrade Kodi to latest version and they have Android drive names? Or use another app? Unless Zidoo plan on providing upgrades to their custom Kodi for many years (they won't) this feature is just storing up problems for the future.
Q10 Pro and the vast majority of Android boxes that use standard Android drive naming are using the correct approach in my opinion. You can install any version of vanilla Kodi on Q10 Pro (so always latest version) without problems and with full hardware support (via wrapper and hopefully integrated in future).
And when Kodi has been set up you won't see drive names often anyway. All media will be under Movies / TV Shows / Music etc menu entries.
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I've preordered batch 2 but I'm worried that himedia will not sort out all the glitches that are present. I'm only interested in the 4k hevc 10 bit support which isn't working at the moment, even my GeForce 960 can play it perfectly. I'm thinking of cancelling my order. Any opinions out there ?
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I've preordered batch 2 but I'm worried that himedia will not sort out all the glitches that are present. I'm only interested in the 4k hevc 10 bit support which isn't working at the moment, even my GeForce 960 can play it perfectly. I'm thinking of cancelling my order. Any opinions out there ?
4K HEVC 10bit is working. It's only some aspects of HDR that aren't working in current firmware (but was working in pre-release firmware so will 100% be fixed, and quickly fixed).
In general, HiMedia have a track record of fixing problems. The main ones in current firmware (3D left/right toggle, HDR, left/right edge band on some 3D) will be fixed quickly.
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I've preordered batch 2 but I'm worried that himedia will not sort out all the glitches that are present. I'm only interested in the 4k hevc 10 bit support which isn't working at the moment, even my GeForce 960 can play it perfectly. I'm thinking of cancelling my order. Any opinions out there ?
If your TV is "Ultra HD Premium" alliance certified, then it should not give you any problems. http://www.uhdalliance.org/
To be honest I would like to see the logo on the Himedia Q10/Q5 Pro boxes too. It probably meets all the specs ? Hisillicon is mentioned as a contributor member not as a full alliance member. Fees are probably an inhibitor here which blurs the logo as some products may comply without carrying the actual logo. That is nasty to say it mild.
Downscaling is a pending problem to support the first generation non-Ultra HD Premium capable 4K TV's. Don't buy such a TV anymore is my recommendation for the moment (they will go cheap though). I have been waiting for it myself as I saw the problems coming since work on the new UHD Blu Ray specs started.
The new specs for DC, HDR and WCG will drive the quality of 4K TV's probably more than the actual basic move to the 4K resolution. I do expect a lot of frustration/aggravation with early 4K TV owners when the new material becomes mainstream. I am pretty sure it will do that pretty fast for most 4K material. Going for a bargain right now may not be such a good idea (thing about it twice).
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X6 Pro only does this with it's own file explorer and it's own custom version of Kodi.
So in all other apps it uses standard Android/Linux drive naming convention.
Although this might seem like a good feature I would suggest that it is in fact of very limited....
Very sad to read this. :(
Anyhow I am asking me, why Android has to produce own Harddisk names, inspite of they are already existing on the Harddisks themselves.
But dear futeko.com, what would you say is more meaningfull (makes more sense), if you go to your Kodi explorer, and take a look at your f.e. 6 USB drives?
This?
sdc1
sdc2
sdb2
sdb3
sdd2
sdd4
Or that?
Action
Classics
Comedy
Series
Love
Family
BTW.
Did you know, that Harddisk boxes not always start up the same order?
Because of that it is possible that the HDDs the next time you start your mediaplayer and your HDD Box have the names in a different order.
And if your System (like f.e. Android) list their own Drive names, and always in another way ordered/upstarted HDD partitions or HDDs, it is not very funny to search for the correct HDD.
So sometimes I really have to click five times, until I have the HDD I wanted to watch a movie from.
First time you do this: :)
Second time you do this: ;)
Third time you do this: ::)
Fourth time you do this: ???
Fifth time you do this: :o
And then: >:( >:( >:( >:( and so on...
Perhaps now you can understand my wish.
BTW:
What about adding the HHDs names behind the Drive names (f.e. in brackets)?
Too no good idea?
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PS.
So it could look like this:
sdc1 [Action]
sdc2 [Classics]
sdb2 [Comedy]
sdb3 [Series]
sdd2 [Love]
sdd4 [Family]
Possible?
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Those weird names are not android specific but something from linux. Drives there has this kind of hook. Something like in Windows where you have C. Normally Android doesn't have to display disk labels because you won't see mounted drives while using phone. So they probably didn't bother to make label be visible in system.
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i remember to had read ( not where and when ) that kodi fix this with "ID" for usb drive.
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I am in the process of thinking of buying either the Q10/pro or Q5/pro . I am very new to this and have tried to understand how to to set one of these boxes up. All I want to do is load my large collection of Blu rays on to external Hard drives and be able to chose them from the screen and play them either though my projector or TV. with the same quality of picture as the the blu ray and the same with the sound To be honest that's all I want it to I already own a smart Tv so I do not need most of the apps like Netflix,Amazon as they are already on my TV. So what I am trying to say is this unit fairly easy to set for a idiot like me? so i can do what i explained above. Is there For example Step by step Instructions on how to set it up which is not to techky? . P.S. I have Kodi already on my Pc so I can practice with it I started using MakeMKV to do the copies of my blu rays which where perfect and then done the art work (Well pleased with myself on that one ) as a 66 old man. Just to add my computer Knowledge is limited & I do not understand some of the techy bits.
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Wow Looun, that would be great! ;D
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I am in the process of thinking of buying either the Q10/pro or Q5/pro . I am very new to this and have tried to understand how to to set one of these boxes up. All I want to do is load my large collection of Blu rays on to external Hard drives and be able to chose them from the screen and play them either though my projector or TV. with the same quality of picture as the the blu ray and the same with the sound To be honest that's all I want it to I already own a smart Tv so I do not need most of the apps like Netflix,Amazon as they are already on my TV. So what I am trying to say is this unit fairly easy to set for a idiot like me? so i can do what i explained above. Is there For example Step by step Instructions on how to set it up which is not to techky? . P.S. I have Kodi already on my Pc so I can practice with it I started using MakeMKV to do the copies of my blu rays which where perfect and then done the art work (Well pleased with myself on that one ) as a 66 old man. Just to add my computer Knowledge is limited & I do not understand some of the techy bits.
I use a Media Player to play DVD and BD where possible based on 1:1 copies. Q10/5 Pro Media Centre will do that for you very much like a real DVD/BD player does. Plain and simple. KODI has all the extra bells and whistles if you like those extra's which I don't. Never use MakeMKV, why doing so? Just make ISO's (Disk images) from the originals. I f you ever want/need to burn one you get the original back and your files are very easy to overview (1 file per DVD/BD).
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I am in the process of thinking of buying either the Q10/pro or Q5/pro . I am very new to this and have tried to understand how to to set one of these boxes up. All I want to do is load my large collection of Blu rays on to external Hard drives and be able to chose them from the screen and play them either though my projector or TV. with the same quality of picture as the the blu ray and the same with the sound To be honest that's all I want it to I already own a smart Tv so I do not need most of the apps like Netflix,Amazon as they are already on my TV. So what I am trying to say is this unit fairly easy to set for a idiot like me? so i can do what i explained above. Is there For example Step by step Instructions on how to set it up which is not to techky? . P.S. I have Kodi already on my Pc so I can practice with it I started using MakeMKV to do the copies of my blu rays which where perfect and then done the art work (Well pleased with myself on that one ) as a 66 old man. Just to add my computer Knowledge is limited & I do not understand some of the techy bits.
I use a Media Player to play DVD and BD where possible based on 1:1 copies. Q10/5 Pro Media Centre will do that for you very much like a real DVD/BD player does. Plain and simple. KODI has all the extra bells and whistles if you like those extra's which I don't. Never use MakeMKV, why doing so? Just make ISO's (Disk images) from the originals. I f you ever want/need to burn one you get the original back and your files are very easy to overview (1 file per DVD/BD).
"Thank you for that Nice Monkey" How do i do this ISO and do a copy using ISO? and does it do a perfect copy of the Blu ray & all the sound systems as well? Told you I was Thick ???
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How would do the art work for my blu rays if I do not use the Kodi then Nice Monkey or is that sort of thing built into the media box ?
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How would do the art work for my blu rays if I do not use the Kodi then Nice Monkey or is that sort of thing built into the media box ?
I am using ImgBurn for that. Just have a look at it. It is Shareware.
To get artwork you need to use KODI. I do without myself.
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Full frame 3D iso's look superb :)
Also on a different note ... its the first time I have seen "DTS-HD HI RES" displayed on my AV Receiver
(https://i.imgsafe.org/9fa1512.png)
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Yep, Q10 Pro thankfully bitstreams DTS-HRA and DD+.
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Hi, the ones sold in aliexpress or ebay, is there a way to check if it is Chinese or overseas version? Is it written on the box or is is checked in the menu?
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Hi, the ones sold in aliexpress or ebay, is there a way to check if it is Chinese or overseas version? Is it written on the box or is is checked in the menu?
Email the seller.
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Yes, but they can give wrong information. Is there a proof we can check?
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Just received my copy ! Big thx
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Hi, the ones sold in aliexpress or ebay, is there a way to check if it is Chinese or overseas version? Is it written on the box or is is checked in the menu?
Thus far I did not get real indications that Chinese and European Q10 Pro boxes are different in anyway apart from the firmware. Also launched at the same moment. For Q5 Pro this clearly the case as those have different specs.
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Hi, the ones sold in aliexpress or ebay, is there a way to check if it is Chinese or overseas version? Is it written on the box or is is checked in the menu?
Thus far I did not get real indications that Chinese and European Q10 Pro boxes are different in anyway apart from the firmware. Also launched at the same moment. For Q5 Pro this clearly the case as those have different specs.
The Chinese and International/European versions are firmware incompatible. You can't install International/European firmware on Chinese Q5/Q10 Pro and vice versa. It's the same situation as with Q5/Q10 4K3D.