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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: futeko.com on January 08, 2016, 11:10:48 AM
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There will be new Q10 and Q5. Final names yet to be determined.
Both products will be based on a new Hisilicon Hi3798C V200 SoC, with much upgraded performance compared to HI3798C in Q5/Q10 4K3D. We expect overall performance to exceed anything currently found in Android boxes.
Himedia give launch date as March. Realistically we expect to have stock in April. We should be the first retailer in Europe to have stock. We'll start taking pre-orders when we have a reliable stock arrival date.
Core features from Q5/Q10 4K3D such as 3D-ISO, 7.1 HD-Audio remain.
Significant upgrades include: CPU (now quad ARM A53), GPU (now quad Mali-720), 10bit colour depth support, dual Gigabit Ethernet, 192/24bit audio, and added 4K60 support.
The Himedia/Hisilicion video processing engine that gave the Q5/Q10 4K3D unrivalled image quality is upgraded to version 2.0 with support for 4K60. The new products additionally support Dolby Vision processing. We expect them to have the same or better image quality as Q5/Q10 4K3D.
This is pure speculation but we think it likely that a wrapper solution will be used for Kodi in order to offer all the above features at launch.
The only official piece of media made available from Himedia to date is this spec sheet for the new Q10:
(http://www.futeko.com/simg/q10himedia.jpg)
Himedia Q5 Next Generation / V200 (http://www.futeko.com/products/MP067.php)
Himedia Q10 Next Generation / V200 (http://www.futeko.com/products/MP068.php)
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looking forward to
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oh no, well great but the wait will kill me april it is then
thanks
ps will this box be my best choice to connect to my yamaha avreciver then hdmi out to a epson 3d projector
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Hey Futeko,
it will be mine ... :) so when you have some other news, please, write me ...
The actual q10 is wonderfull ... so the new q10 will be even better.
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wow... great news !!
don't think my wife will agree though..ha ha.
thanks Futeko for the heads up will hang on upgrading my projector this year until I buy this and see how much things improve with this new spec....
Thanks
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DTS: X and HDR compatibility the next generation?
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Waiting with baited breath!!! :D
Present-gen HiMedia Q5/Q10 4K3D is my #1 recommend Kodi 3D player here. (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=221407)
HiMedia, please please change the model # to something like Q100 or Q4K! Too many Q5/Q10 various gen boxes already, confusing to users.
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im sold
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.... me too, bring it on.
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Will it have properly working HDMI CEC?
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what would the benefits of dual gigabit ports on the himedia v200
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I will get one, ive already got one of each :P
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what would the benefits of dual gigabit ports on the himedia v200
Faster LAN if you have the right network hardware. 2Gbps in theory.
In practical terms I doubt it willl make much difference. With Android boxes there are other parts of the hardware (memory speed, speed of processing incoming data) that act as constraints to throughput. The V200 boxes will not get close to full Gigabit transfer rates, but they might be the best of any Android media box. I'd be happy with that.
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Yes, but I believe dazm45 wondered to what use could be put those two Gigabit LAN ports.
One could only speculate that one port could be used for 4k BD streaming (up to 128 Mbps) from a NAS, while the other could be accessing metadata located on a separate NAS. ???
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Yes, but I believe dazm45 wondered to what use could be put those two Gigabit LAN ports.
One could only speculate that one port could be used for 4k BD streaming (up to 128 Mbps) from a NAS, while the other could be accessing metadata located on a separate NAS. ???
The UBD spec allows for discs in three sizes:
- 50GB with 82 Mbit/s,
- 66GB with 108 Mbit/s,
- 100GB with 128 Mbit/s.
1 Gbit/s = 1000 Mbit/s per second https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Gigabit_per_second
Gigabit LAN ports it's 8 times bigger UHD 100GB with 128 Mbit/s.
... very strange ??? ... it's more helpful 2 HDMI port out
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Himedia Q5 Next Generation / V200 (http://www.futeko.com/products/MP067.php)
Himedia Q10 Next Generation / V200 (http://www.futeko.com/products/MP068.php)
Just one recommendation. 4K30 still remains in the web site info section, instead of 4K60:
Video Formats (Codecs) MPEG1/2/4 up to 4K30, H.264/AVC up to 4K30, H.265 up to 4K30, VC-1, REALVIDEO 8/9/10 up to 4K30
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Just one recommendation. 4K30 still remains in the web site info section, instead of 4K60:
Video Formats (Codecs) MPEG1/2/4 up to 4K30, H.264/AVC up to 4K30, H.265 up to 4K30, VC-1, REALVIDEO 8/9/10 up to 4K30
Thanks. It's now been corrected.
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it is still not updated
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it is still not updated
Oops. It is now.
Specs will be updated as we receive official info from Himedia. Some aspects of the specs at the moment are from the HiSilicon chipset specs.
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Oops. It is now.
Specs will be updated as we receive official info from Himedia. Some aspects of the specs at the moment are from the HiSilicon chipset specs.
HDMI should be 2.0 instead of 1.4.
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:)
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This is saaaad :-[ >:( Just got my Q5 last December and iv even not yet felt the full potential of it. So whats happens to guys like us? we ditch the old and get the new? If theaz a way the v100 can have Lollipop it would be soooooo much welcomed and id be soooooo happy ;)!!
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No, hold on to your current-gen 'Q' box. I just bought a 2nd unit off Futeko even though I'm getting a review unit of 'Pro' soon. Why? Because firmware development takes time, and I'm not expecting the new boxes to be as good at launch.
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i would hold on and we don't know the price yet plus you are going to only benefit if you have a 4k tv let's face there's not much content out there yet and no HDR yes it's faster but the Q5 is no slouch and you get a improved picture .
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The box will probably have 2x NIC with Gigabit. Something I would like to do is combine my Media Player with a basic NAS in a single box. I got a gut feeling this is the real purpose of that.
Tried to do so with an older player including good Samba Server support. The concept worked just fine for music and photos, but the box lacked horsepower as a real NAS for HD Movies on other (mobile) players.
This baby with a quad core at 2 GHz has the same or more horsepower than most NAS boxes have today and with Dual Ethernet performance should not be a problem either. So thumbs up a good Samba/NFS server is included for an easy and simple NAS deployment. Using the Internal drive and a bunch of 8TB HDD via a USB3 Hub should cater for the HDD capacity. The whole preferable in JBOD mode for ease of access (single logical drive always using a fixed network mount).
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Will it have properly working HDMI CEC?
I presume the new chip does not have this HW problem anymore. The old chip pulls down the HDMI-CEC signal when powered off. They forgot that HDMI-CEC is a BUS-type of protocol and doing so blocks all other devices connected to the same bus (read all other HDMI ports on the same AMP and/or TV). All products from all brands using the same chip have this nasty problem, but never say it loud.
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According to the specs its supports Bluetooth. It that true.
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Yes both Q5 amd Q10 Pro will support Bluetooth.
Yes they will both also support HDMI CEC.
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What is the claim about 4K UHD Blu Ray compatibility? This if any made at all? Himedia should shed a light on that when releasing the box
The box seems to match specs: 4KP60, HDR, HDMI2.0a, HDCP2.2, Dolby Vision and 10-bit Color depth all applicable to the new 4K UHD Blu Ray specifications. Can't be a coincidence and creates the assumption that it will play the planned UHD BD releases too. Probably none of current 4K Media Players in fact will play these images in 4K . Maybe when output downscaled to 1080P60 which a 4K TV will upscale again?
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No, it should be able to play HDR 10-bit (format for UHD BDs) just fine, natively, w/o any downconversion/upconversion. Assuming UHD BD's are rip-able at some point.
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No, it should be able to play HDR 10-bit (format for UHD BDs) just fine, natively, w/o any downconversion/upconversion. Assuming UHD BD's are rip-able at some point.
The relevancy is not so much BD rips but many other 4K sources probably will follow the then defacto new specifications. Now 10-bit e.g. is rare but I expect this will change rapidly as a lot of recent HD material is already produced with Dolby Vision.
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Agree, starting to see some 10-bit HDR clips (http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=89) floating around now.
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Here's a YouTube video of the Himedia Q10 Pro presented by the founder of Himedia at the CES 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDryg7N5Hg4
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Any chance the Q10Pro will support internal HDD capacity over 4TB? :-\ Right now I fancy the Zappiti Player 4K Duo despite its weakly specs just because of its compatibility with HDD's up to 2x 8TB (later even 2x10TB) but I would much more prefer a much more potent future-proof hardware.
Chris
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Q10 Pro will support up to 6TB internal Hardrive according to the Himedia's Youtube video clip.
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Q10 Pro will support up to 6TB internal Hardrive according to the Himedia's Youtube video clip.
Please read my tutorial in the general section on this topic first. Lots of incorrect information floating around about this including on this forum, There is no real new boundary between 2 TB and 16 TB. There is a big one at 2.2 TB though and another one at 17.6 TB to be precise. After reading you understand how and why. A product has the right drivers or does not. For Internal a 64-bit register GPT driver is needed and for External USB the driver needs to support 4K sectors.
My educated guess is that 8 / 10 TB will work just fine both Internal and via USB. Official support is what they tested nothing more or less.
Running 6 TB disks my self even with 5 year old media players both Internal as via USB (official 3 TB Internal only).
Don't own any Himedia products myself but probably applicable to most if not all current products. Just be brave and try it, never came across a case where 3 TB worked and 6/8 TB did not, this regardless official support specifications!
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Hey Nice Monkey, Ive just read your tutorial (http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=576.0)! It's comprehensive yet comprehensible so thank you for that! It puzzles me, that most of the people I know that own a European Q10 were unable to make any HDD larger than 4TB work. Given your info, it seems to just be a matter of initialisation or wrong formatting. Whichever it is, I will make sure to pass on your tutorial and I'm looking forward to make my next gen Q10 work with the Seagate 8TB drive. :)
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Whichever it is, I will make sure to pass on your tutorial and I'm looking forward to make my next gen Q10 work with the Seagate 8TB drive. :)
They already changed the spec to include 8 TB.
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What about netflix 4k HD. will "pro" series support it?
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What about netflix 4k HD. will "pro" series support it?
No, netflix 4k is supported only with Android TV.
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HDMI CEC, wake on lan?
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i see the q10 pro will not have dual Ethernet socket's now is that the same for the q5 pro or will they remain thanks
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HDMI CEC, wake on lan?
HDMI CEC is supported. It's buggy in current testing firmware but it should be fixed by launch.
Wake on LAN is supported.
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Some HDR clips to be downloaded:
http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr
A list of currently available HDR titles:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/2202713-master-list-currently-available-4k-hdr-titles-will-updated-often.html
A list of HDR-capable displays:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/286-latest-industry-news/2337425-hdr-capable-displays.html
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HDR is supported on Q5 / Q10 Pro.
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Hello, I am considering purchasing a q5 pro and have a few questions. 1. On my LG bluray player (through the USB) I am am able to play all files with dts-hdma audio but unable to play dolby true hd. I've read it will play both, is this correct? 2. I've also read that some media players will not play hdd with multiple partitions. Will the q5 pro play a hdd with multiple partitions? 3. The LG bluray player has options for adjusting the screen size and subtitle controls. Does the q5 pro also? 4. Do I have to have a 4ktv to play 10-bit files or does the q5 adjust the 10-bit to 8 bit to fit the tv?
These features will determine if I will buy a q5. Thankyou for your help.
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Hello, I am considering purchasing a q5 pro and have a few questions. 1. On my LG bluray player (through the USB) I am am able to play all files with dts-hdma audio but unable to play dolby true hd. I've read it will play both, is this correct? 2. I've also read that some media players will not play hdd with multiple partitions. Will the q5 pro play a hdd with multiple partitions? 3. The LG bluray player has options for adjusting the screen size and subtitle controls. Does the q5 pro also? 4. Do I have to have a 4ktv to play 10-bit files or does the q5 adjust the 10-bit to 8 bit to fit the tv?
These features will determine if I will buy a q5. Thankyou for your help.
1. It will play both.
2. No problems with multiple partitions.
3. Subtitles have comprehensive options. Forced subtitles are not yet supported in test firmware but we expect they will be by the time box is released. What do you mean by screen size? Aspect ratio and screen overscan can be adjusted if you mean that.
4. The Q5/Q10 Pro will play 10bit files on 8bit HDMI 1.4 TV and at lower resolutions if need be.
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Thank you for answering my questions. I just have a couple more. 1. What is the largest external HDD the q5 pro will use? 2. Do you ship in the US? 3. What type of warranty comes with it? 3. Whats the difference between using KODI versus the internal player? Thanks in advance
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Kodi is very limited on HiSilicon SoC... no 23.976, no HD audio, no full 3D. All things the native player does well.
We're trying to get a Q10 Pro sample to a Kodi dev, an Android expert, but it has been stuck in customs unfortunately. His involvement would likely mean better integration of above features from within Kodi, something he's already accomplished for AMLogic SoC players and nVidia Shield.
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Pro series support Gaming Controllers? F710, Xbox....
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Hi everyone.
I'd like to know whether xposed framework is working for the lollipop version?
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In my Himedia 900b when I was trying to copy some movie from a hard disk to another via the green button on the remote ,all of a sudden some other movie that I had stored disappeared.In the folder that the movie was stayed only the cover and the mkv file was magically transformed in 0 kb with supposedly running time of 14 hours and some minutes and of course not playable. I want to ask if i put in the Q10 an internal seagate 8tb would I be able to copy my collection of movies via the player without problems; In the 900b I had 2 x 2tb disks connected in the 2 usb 2 ports
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In my Himedia 900b when I was trying to copy some movie from a hard disk to another via the green button on the remote ,all of a sudden some other movie that I had stored disappeared.In the folder that the movie was stayed only the cover and the mkv file was magically transformed in 0 kb with supposedly running time of 14 hours and some minutes and of course not playable. I want to ask if i put in the Q10 an internal seagate 8tb would I be able to copy my collection of movies via the player without problems; In the 900b I had 2 x 2tb disks connected in the 2 usb 2 ports
Himedia q10 pro official support 6TB HDD, but now with Q10 some 8tb HDD work without issues.
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I thought that Q10 pro officially supported 8tb hdd
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The only one HDD with 8 TB I am aware of is the Seagate Backup unit. For media player these HDD specs are good, so no problems to be expected. there. Never do massive HDD copying using media players myself, always use a PC for that. Copying uses a lot of memory/caching to do so, which could be a bit tricky on a platform not really designed for that?
Price/capacity of the Seagate 8 TB HDD is excellent. Probably get myself one too. Will share the result when my Q10 Pro arrives (need a USB HDD-Docking station to work with it).
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But how can I copy via a pc since the disk will be internal;
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But how can I copy via a pc since the disk will be internal;
If you connect a USB slave to USB cable between Q10 Pro and PC the PC will see the Q10 Pro internal drive as a USB HDD.
Or you can copy using Samba / NFS networking, which with the Gigagbit LAN port / AC wi-fi will be fast.
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Using Samba myself (20 MB/sec Write and 30 MB/sec Read) or move a HDD to my PC physically (has 2 Plug & Play docking bays) . May also move the complete 4-port Fantec Bay for massive BD.ISO file moves to my PC.
Also got the 8 TB Seagate ST8000AS0002 in use now. It can be moved freely between Internal, mentioned 4-port USB3 Bay and my PC for Docking.
The drive works fine and is silent regarding rotation. Head movements can be heard clearly by the relative loud clicks it makes. For ISO's files as I use never a problem neither is that it writes small files a lot slower than huge files (peak 130 MB/sec). It is an Archive drive and when used as such a good choice. I see some using it in a Raid, which functionally works fine but is not recommended by Seagate (probably for good reasons).
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Because of that I am only using WD HDDs (green and blue). :D