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Product Support => HiMedia M3 4K3D => Topic started by: farlucco on June 18, 2015, 03:09:22 PM

Title: m3 gpu question
Post by: farlucco on June 18, 2015, 03:09:22 PM
hi
id like to know some info before buy....im not sure if buy a m3 (i prefer.....) or a q5 (some application that i don't need.....)
my almost all use,is for watching video with usb hard disk....mkv avi iso iso3d h265 4k ecc.....
is the m3 powerfull enough for decoding every video or is better to choose q5.....? m3 has mali 450 4 core..... q5 mali 450 8 (!!!) core
why so much difference?

thanks
regards
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: skank on June 18, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
Why do you need to decode, if you can set it to passthrough? immo much better
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: farlucco on June 18, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
My mistake ;)
My questione anyway is to know if m3 is enough to watch all The video....And why there is so much difference between The q5 gpu And m3 gpu. .....?
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: futeko.com on June 19, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
The M3 is powerful enough to decode virtually all video up to 1080p. It's 1080p max though, no 4K.

Drawbacks of the M3 vs Q5 are that it's less powerful (particularly noticeable for games), weaker wifi (no antenna), fewer ports and a slightly strange design.

The M3 is a great box for playing video at up to 1080p. The Q5 is a more versatile all-round machine.

For reference, Blu-Ray rips are usually below 45 Mbps.

Using the MKV sample files here http://jell.yfish.us/, played at 1080p:

35 Mbps - M3 OK - Q5 OK
70 Mbps - M3 OK - Q5 OK
110 Mps - M3 OK - Q5 OK
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: skank on June 19, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
The M3 is powerful enough to decode virtually all video up to 1080p. It's 1080p max though, no 4K.

Drawbacks of the M3 vs Q5 are that it's less powerful (particularly noticeable for games), weaker wifi (no antenna), fewer ports and a slightly strange design.

The M3 is a great box for playing video at up to 1080p. The Q5 is a more versatile all-round machine.

For reference, Blu-Ray rips are usually below 45 Mbps.

Using the MKV sample files here http://jell.yfish.us/, played at 1080p:

35 Mbps - M3 OK - Q5 OK
70 Mbps - M3 OK - Q5 OK
110 Mps - M3 OK - Q5 OK

You might tell that the m3 in kodi has no 1080p gui

Thats a big thing
Hopefully they fix it
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: futeko.com on June 19, 2015, 10:32:36 AM
You might tell that the m3 in kodi has no 1080p gui

Thats a big thing
Hopefully they fix it

Ongoing topic which is being investigated.

Kodi on the M3 reports it's resolution as 720p. Content plays at 1080p and my TV reports interface resolution as 1080p.

So either interface is being incorrectly reported as 720p when is in fact 1080p or interface is 720p upscaled to 1080p.
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: skank on June 19, 2015, 10:54:53 AM
You might tell that the m3 in kodi has no 1080p gui

Thats a big thing
Hopefully they fix it

Ongoing topic which is being investigated.

Kodi on the M3 reports it's resolution as 720p. Content plays at 1080p and my TV reports interface resolution as 1080p.

So either interface is being incorrectly reported as 720p when is in fact 1080p or interface is 720p upscaled to 1080p.

If so, why does it look bad then ? :p
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: futeko.com on June 19, 2015, 11:10:35 AM
Post a photo of how it looks.
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: farlucco on June 19, 2015, 12:45:41 PM
The M3 is powerful enough to decode virtually all video up to 1080p. It's 1080p max though, no 4K.

perfect explanation....
just another question and you convinced me to buy it ;)
(i prefer m3 for what i do....but i could buy a q5....if need)
you tell "to decode all video up to 1080p" ,so why in the specification (bot of m3 and q5) says that is perfect for "up to 4k resolution" ?
thanks for answer.... i dont need a 4k tv now....but in the specs is written.....
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: skank on June 19, 2015, 02:16:34 PM
Post a photo of how it looks.

i will tonight in other topic, but i doubt it will be visible on foto..
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: farlucco on June 19, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
The M3 is powerful enough to decode virtually all video up to 1080p. It's 1080p max though, no 4K.

perfect explanation....
just another question and you convinced me to buy it ;)
(i prefer m3 for what i do....but i could buy a q5....if need)
you tell "to decode all video up to 1080p" ,so why in the specification (bot of m3 and q5) says that is perfect for "up to 4k resolution" ?
thanks for answer.... i dont need a 4k tv now....but in the specs is written.....

sorry could the admin answer to this?
thanks ;)
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: futeko.com on June 19, 2015, 04:23:28 PM
My mistake. Crazy day. M3 can output 4K. It will also decode and play H.265 4K, but not at as high a bitrate as Q5.

If anyone has anyone sensibly sized test files (to establish at where Q5 plays stuff M3 won't) then I am happy to test them on M3 and Q5.
Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: farlucco on June 20, 2015, 08:09:25 AM
hi
this is a test video form fifa 2014 ..... 4k and 60 fps.....but i don't know the bitrate :
https://mega.co.nz/#!RBEgTT7a!u0IARmwnTJXGeSVoTEECrPPkjnsrtEfAelvptQVGLHY
no copyright....just free .....

this site have lot of video h265 4k.... :
http://www.elecard.com/en/download/videos.html
the one with beatles and the next one....seems good to test...

http://www.libde265.org/downloads-videos/
also this site have 265 4k video....but with low bitrate....if you want to test...

many thanks


Title: Re: m3 gpu question
Post by: futeko.com on June 24, 2015, 12:32:56 PM
hi
this is a test video form fifa 2014 ..... 4k and 60 fps.....but i don't know the bitrate :
https://mega.co.nz/#!RBEgTT7a!u0IARmwnTJXGeSVoTEECrPPkjnsrtEfAelvptQVGLHY
no copyright....just free .....

this site have lot of video h265 4k.... :
http://www.elecard.com/en/download/videos.html
the one with beatles and the next one....seems good to test...

http://www.libde265.org/downloads-videos/
also this site have 265 4k video....but with low bitrate....if you want to test...

many thanks


The FIFA video and bbb-3840x2160-cfg02.mkv from here http://www.libde265.org/downloads-videos/ are 60fps, both M3 and Q5 are 30fps max for 4K. Both videos do play but in slow motion.

I need 4K 24fps or 4K 30fps samples for proper testing.