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Product Support => HiMedia Q5/Q10 4K3D => Topic started by: futeko.com on April 24, 2015, 07:09:02 AM
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As well as official firmware 1.0.8, which we will be posting this morning, we have a test firmware for Q5 that offers proper 23.976fps support.
If you don't understand what that means then this firmware is not for you! It's a deeply confusing 'bug' that exists in most video playback devices and nearly all Android boxes where video encoded at 23.976fps rather than 24fps (as some is) results in a single missed frame every 41 seconds. Most people never notice it.
HiMedia don't want us posting the 23.976 firmware publically, but if you're interested in testing it then reply and we'll send you a download link by email.
PLEASE DON'T SHARE THE FILE OR LINK. IF IT DOES GET LEAKED IT WILL MEAN THAT FUTURE TEST FIRMWARES WILL NOT BE MADE AVAILABLE.
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Hello my friend looking forward to the new firmware
I will like to try the new test
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Hi.
Please send me download link.
Thanks.
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yes, send me please :P
it's base from 1.0.8 ?
it fix also auto-witch fps 50<>60 or 60<>50 hrz ?
i think can help :
test file 23,976 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx63o79bMC7lNDZwYk5PMGFlV1k&authuser=0)
test file full fps (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx63o79bMC7lNDZwYk5PMGFlV1k&authuser=0)
if Q5 will support 24/1001 aka 23.976 ,it will became the best android box! ;D
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Yes please send also to me, I want to test it.
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Hi,
great news!Please send me the link. I would like to test this firmware.
Thanks!
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This is the news I was waiting for.
Please send me a download link.
Thank you.
Best, D.
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That's 7 people in total. I'm going to allow 1 more and then that's enough for now.
We'll email you the link.
PLEASE DON'T SHARE THE FILE OR LINK. IF IT DOES GET LEAKED IT WILL MEAN THAT FUTURE TEST FIRMWARES WILL NOT BE MADE AVAILABLE.
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When will you send link
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Please send me the link. I manage this thread at Kodi forum (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=221407), and also posted a review here (http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=207730&pid=1954055#pid1954055). Thank you.
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OK. All the above are in the test group.
We'll send emails (to forum email address) with a link to the test firmware before end today.
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OK. All the above are in the test group.
We'll send emails (to forum email address) with a link to the test firmware before end today.
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Can be enable debug log or debug info into himediaplayer? it's not easy to see drop frame/ skip frame or stutter.
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No debug in this firmware, although I will mention it to HiMedia on Monday.
We have 8 people testing the firmware. Because the 23.976 problem is very difficult to spot the hope is that by having multiple testers who know what they're looking for we will get decent information.
Emails have just been sent to the tester group with the firmware link.
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Thanks, got it. Just to be sure, we should install this via paperclip/restore/power method right? And, can we go from 1.0.7 directly to this, or should 1.0.8 be installed first?
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Install using the restore button method, as described in the threads for 1.0.8.
You can install this over any other firmware. It will replace the existing firmware.
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So, did a few (10-15 min) tests of TV and movie (23.976) content... I'm not seeing much difference over what I last had (1.0.7). But, then again, I barely noticed any microstutters with 1.0.7 anyway. Planning to watch a full 2-hour movie tonight & will report back.
I do like the new launcher.
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Ok, did a few tests during the weekend. The test firmware performed very well and there is a noticely improvement in terms of micostutters. Mostly they are gone. Playback of 29,976 content is very smooth.Good work!
Test setup: Samba Linux Server->Network->Himedia Q5 ->Hdmi-> Receiver Pioneer VSX- 924->Hdmi-> Beamer Optoma HD25e
Unfortunately, playback of 3D blueray isos seems to be broken. 1080p24 framepacked video is replayed as 720p60. Therefore the aspect ratio and resolution is wrong.
Audio is asynchron, too. Audio is drifting away and the drift increases during replay.(Audio is always outputed earlier than video).
The audio sync issue was also observed with the official firmware 1.8.0
Normal blueray isos worked as expected.
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I watched a movie tonight more then 2 hours without see any stutters.
I will try with an other movie tomorrow.
For the moment the test firmare works very well :)
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Ok, did a few tests during the weekend. The test firmware performed very well and there is a noticely improvement in terms of micostutters. Mostly they are gone. Playback of 29,976 content is very smooth.Good work!
Test setup: Samba Linux Server->Network->Himedia Q5 ->Hdmi-> Receiver Pioneer VSX- 924->Hdmi-> Beamer Optoma HD25e
Unfortunately, playback of 3D blueray isos seems to be broken. 1080p24 framepacked video is replayed as 720p60. Therefore the aspect ratio and resolution is wrong.
Audio is asynchron, too. Audio is drifting away and the drift increases during replay.(Audio is always outputed earlier than video).
The audio sync issue was also observed with the official firmware 1.8.0
Normal blueray isos worked as expected.
I will pass the 3D ISO and audio sync feedback onto HiMedia. Thanks.
Glad 23.976 would seem to be improved with this firmware.
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Re: 3D ISO, switching to 2D mode & back to 3D appears to fix the 720p resolution issue. Goes back to 1080p after the toggle.
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After few tests performed last night I can guess that the 23.976 playback issue has been solved. I will be able to watch an entire movie during the weekend: further analysis is on the way.
Thank you futeko for the opportunity to test this firmware.
D.
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Playback of 29,976 content is very smooth.Good work!
Can you explain which 29.970 you tried? I assume this is what you meant and not 29.976. In my case, as before, 1080i/29.970 MPEG2 still stutters, and 1080i/29.970 VC-1 (ex: Eagles' Melbourne content BD) still won't play. VC-1 remains a problem overall as 1080p/23.976 won't play properly either (ex: 'Constantine' BD).
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What is 23.970? This is a complicated topic (I could be wrong..) but I thought the issue was conversion from NTSC 24 * 29.97 / 30, which is 23.976fps. I don't think 23.970 material exists.
I'll pass on the information about VC-1, but it's off topic for this thread. The issue here is the single frame skip every 41 seconds on all 23.976 material when output on Q5 in 24Hz mode.
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Typo. I've tested 23.976 material (mkv).
Sorry for the confusion.
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Hi.
Please send me download link.
Thanks.
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im glad that the firmware as improved the 23.976 play back for some who notice it i can't say that iv'e noticed it but it shows that himedia are listening to there customers well done futeko and himedia .
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Agree. I tested with v.1.0.9 firmware more over last 2 days and really like it. I think microstutters are completely gone, and box even seems a little faster (like when navigating/browsing my Kodi movie/TV library of 1,500+ movies and 50+ TV shows). The only issue is 3D ISO's playing in 720p, and having to switch to 2D mode and back to 3D mode to get 1080p. 1080p MKV's on the other hand don't have this issue; they stay at 1080p.
Someone mentioned audio sync issues with v.1.0.8 and v.1.0.9 firmwares, but I'm not seeing this. Any other experiences from the 8 in the group who've tested v1.0.9?
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after some test the beta fw i am very happy no vidible stutter ;D , for example:
- lawrence of arabia (panorama movie )
- TimeScapes 2k ( a lot of long natural scene )
- DTS demo disc 14/15/1718/ ( audio clip )
- some TV show
some times i have stutter video and audio ( micro pause ) ,but this can be bad rip file or bad endconding.
I have set 5ms to av receiver and it's fix audio sync issues in most of the case.