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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: onyxx1995 on August 28, 2016, 10:05:10 PM

Title: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on August 28, 2016, 10:05:10 PM

I hava q5 pro.i have Marantz AR 5.1 with SPDIF inputs only.it is supporting max 24/96khz.
No hdmi input.
Everybody here is talking about hd audio through hdmi.I am interested in SPDIF output....bits? khz? max channels on flac and resolution? SACD.iso? PCM? BDaudio?..etc
What settings i do on q5 spdif...5.1 or raw or lpcm...on what format?
What player is best for HD audio?

Uhhh,many questions.Maybe some expert in here.
I need explenation on this.
Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: looun on August 29, 2016, 07:42:11 AM

SPDIF support only:
DD e DTS 5.1 raw
2.0 pcm ar 48hz at 24 bit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF

HD audiois support only by hdmi.
DTS-HD is down sample to DTS.
True hd no audio
DD+ no audio.

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on August 29, 2016, 08:14:01 AM

Thanks looun!!
So flac 24/96khz stereo no passthroug to spdif?

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: Nice Monkey on August 29, 2016, 08:39:32 AM

Quote from: onyxx1995 on August 29, 2016, 08:14:01 AM

Thanks looun!!
So flac 24/96khz stereo no passthroug to spdif?

According to the official SPDIF standard this is correct 48 KHz max with also a 1.5 MByte bandwidth max.

Some implementations allow for 24/96 (and expensive DAC implementations have even shown 24/192 to work).
Also Optical (=plastic) and Coax ports may behave different limits here including the quality of the cable.
Also SPDIF via USB exists and that works at even 24/192 see implementation reported here also with Q10 Pro.

Everything above 48 KHz is a grey area. It is time to say SPDIF goodbye.

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on August 29, 2016, 03:44:19 PM

So why does my marantz support 24/96 if i can not sent to it?? :-\

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/516705/Marantz-Sr4200.html?page=23

http://www.cnet.com/products/marantz-sr4200/specs/

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on August 29, 2016, 05:49:47 PM

I have SPDIF/Toslink Input on my Geek Pulse Infinity DAC/Amp.

Have watched movies thru Kodi in it and the DAC/Amp displayed 24/96. Didn't test with music though. Will try tonight.

Will get back at you tomorrow.

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: looun on August 29, 2016, 09:14:10 PM

Quote from: m-i-c-k-e-y on August 29, 2016, 05:49:47 PM

I have SPDIF/Toslink Input on my Geek Pulse Infinity DAC/Amp.

Have watched movies thru Kodi in it and the DAC/Amp displayed 24/96. Didn't test with music though. Will try tonight.

Will get back at you tomorrow.

Check with this reference  file
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

Quote from: onyxx1995 on August 29, 2016, 08:14:01 AM

Thanks looun!!
So flac 24/96khz stereo no passthroug to spdif?

flac passtrought  not exist, is " bitstream  " with PCM.

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on August 30, 2016, 12:17:14 AM

Sorry my mistake...how can i get bitstream pcm out of the box?what format of music do i must have? Thanks?

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on August 30, 2016, 07:47:19 AM

Quote from: looun on August 29, 2016, 09:14:10 PM

Check with this reference  file
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

Thanks Bro!

I think this is still a valid link for those who want to test their system with different high res format. Nice that they added MQA and DSD256.

To onyxx1995

So I connected my Toslink cable. At first I haven't heard any sound until I resetted my DAC.  I upgraded my DAC to a beta firmware that could support native DSD256. So no display confirmation on Toslink. It just says "TOSLINK".

BUT  Kodi did play some of my music files:

FLAC - 16/44, 24/96, 24/192, 24/352.8 [DXD]
WAVE - 24/96
MP3 - 16/320Kbps
SACD/DSD - DFF nad DSF at DSD64(2.8Mhz), it stutters at DSD128

SPDIF setting on Q10Pro was in RAW.

Interesting that I could play DSD64 material on Kodi. Will it confirm of its standalone ability to play DSD?

Well I need to place an Analog RCA stereo jack into it....
 

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on August 30, 2016, 10:15:19 AM

Thanks mickey!!...just checked...spdif supports 24/96 stereo pcm.

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on August 30, 2016, 11:10:17 AM

No Problem!

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on September 16, 2016, 12:10:38 PM

Still cant get  24/96 sound out on spdif.. >:(

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on September 17, 2016, 12:49:28 AM

Sorry to hear that.

Last week bought an Spdif RCA/Coax cable. And it played music through my DAC.

System Spdif settings: RAW

Using Himedia Music Player it played MP3, 24/96 Flac, 24/192 Flac. It can't play DXD (32/352.8 Flac) and DSD64 (.dsf).

However through UAPP (USB Audio Player Pro) it played everything the app could support. But it used the ASL (Android Sound Layer) to do this. Thus converted everything to 16/48 regardless of bit depth or rate.

Could not confirm the bit/depht rate since my DAC dosen't display important info.

Did yours play??

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on September 17, 2016, 07:30:24 AM

It plays everything,but not in 24/96...flac,wav...i have to make dvd-audio from it and play on my denon 2910...then i get 24/96.
I want my himedia to play it...any other sollution?
Maybe different player?

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on September 17, 2016, 08:42:38 AM

Changed Spdif to LPCM on settings?

What App are you running?

Try this on your Android Box:
HibyMusic (free):  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hiby.music&hl=en (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hiby.music&hl=en)
UAPP: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en)
Trial: http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/USBAudioPlayerPROTrial_3.1.7.apk (http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/USBAudioPlayerPROTrial_3.1.7.apk)

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on September 17, 2016, 09:52:43 AM

I am ussing default himedia player.I will try LPCM.i am on RAW now.
HBR settings?

I tried hibymusic,it is said right 24/96 in upper screen,but output still the same...i tried and SACD ISO,the same result,read right but no 24/96 output.
Maybe firmware flash? I am on coustume one 1.0.7.

I will try UAPP and Trial.

Thanks Mickey for helping me!!

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: m-i-c-k-e-y on September 17, 2016, 10:58:35 AM

HBR are for display?? :-\ IDK

"Trial" is the Trial Program for UAPP

Title: Re: Max specs spdif sound?
Post by: onyxx1995 on September 17, 2016, 11:13:23 AM

Quote from: m-i-c-k-e-y on September 17, 2016, 10:58:35 AM

HBR are for display?? :-\ IDK

"Trial" is the Trial Program for UAPP

Yes...hbr is for display...i put on 5.1...did not change that setting.
Aaa...sorry...i will try that that app.
The last is flash 1.0.7 :)