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Product Support => HiMedia Q10 Pro, Q5 Pro => Topic started by: Lex on August 25, 2016, 08:52:57 AM

Title: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Lex on August 25, 2016, 08:52:57 AM
What really makes the TV HDR mode: OTHER?
I play my movies only on the internal hard disk. If the film by setting OTHER untouched passed through the Hi-media?
Because the HDMI video color space setting is grayed out.
Thank you for your answers
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: akurej on August 25, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
Although Video color space setting is greyed out, it shows "YCbCr444 8bit"
And I believe this same colour space setting is automatically applied when you chose TV HDR Mode "Other"
I have no idea what other changes the "other" mode does!
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Nice Monkey on August 25, 2016, 09:32:35 AM
Agreed. The colour space and HDR settings need explanation and suggested settings by Himedia. Now it is a wild guess.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PolifemoX on August 25, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
What really makes the TV HDR mode: OTHER?
I play my movies only on the internal hard disk. If the film by setting OTHER untouched passed through the Hi-media?
Because the HDMI video color space setting is grayed out.
Thank you for your answers
OTHER is Dolby Vision.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Nice Monkey on August 25, 2016, 12:21:14 PM
OTHER is Dolby Vision.

Thanks a lot for that piece of information. Very interesting and does make sense indeed.
As the actual implementation on UHD BD with Dolby Vision has not been standardized yet, the factual support even by the Hisillicon SOC will remain undefined till the standard is officially specified and ratified.  Valid reason to label it "Other".

Now waiting for the information for when to use what settings under which conditions.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Lex on August 25, 2016, 01:14:05 PM
What really makes the TV HDR mode: OTHER?
I play my movies only on the internal hard disk. If the film by setting OTHER untouched passed through the Hi-media?
Because the HDMI video color space setting is grayed out.
Thank you for your answers
OTHER is Dolby Vision.
Thank you. Which color space is then applied or nothing (passthrough)?
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: magicoolje on September 23, 2016, 09:36:54 PM
An answer here will be great:)
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PolifemoX on September 24, 2016, 05:25:40 PM
Bt2020 is activated with HDR mode (10 and Dolby Vision) in my LG uh850v (uh8500).
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: magicoolje on September 25, 2016, 11:01:31 PM
This week I upgraded my TV set to a new LG 65 UH850V with support of HDR and DV. I observe that Himedia does not support HDR10 at 2160p 60... Is that correct?
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PolifemoX on September 26, 2016, 02:07:54 PM
This week I upgraded my TV set to a new LG 65 UH850V with support of HDR and DV. I observe that Himedia does not support HDR10 at 2160p 60... Is that correct?

I think that suppot it. Here there are demos:

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr

LG Colors of Journey - HDR.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PJDavis1970 on September 30, 2016, 08:29:41 AM
This is one of the reasons I am a bit shocked there is no manual for q10/5 Pro.

No one really knows what some of the options are they just speculate what they are.  Would be nice to have an actual manual...like almost every hardware device on the market has.


What really makes the TV HDR mode: OTHER?
I play my movies only on the internal hard disk. If the film by setting OTHER untouched passed through the Hi-media?
Because the HDMI video color space setting is grayed out.
Thank you for your answers
OTHER is Dolby Vision.

Please explain how you got this information.  Or are you just guessing?

Doesn't really make sense to have HDR yet call Dolby Vision other does it?  Misinformation is the worst kind of information
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Nice Monkey on September 30, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
See the related topic: http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1252.0 where I make the conclusion Himedia is completely on the wrong track here.

Calling DV (Dolby Vision) "Other" is something I can understand very well though. It would implicitly mean support for Dolby Vision as a commitment. DV is more than just HDR and the standard is still wet. The box is definitely not certified by Dolby Laboratories either. Even all currently sold UHD 4K Blu Ray players lack support for DV.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PJDavis1970 on September 30, 2016, 10:45:34 AM
See the related topic: http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1252.0 where I make the conclusion Himedia is completely on the wrong track here.

Calling DV (Dolby Vision) "Other" is something I can understand very well though. It would implicitly mean support for Dolby Vision as a commitment. DV is more than just HDR and the standard is still wet. The box is definitely not certified by Dolby Laboratories either. Even all currently sold UHD 4K Blu Ray players lack support for DV.

The thing is though how do we actually know Other is Dolby Vision?  Has it been confirmed by Himedia or is it speculation and guess work?
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Nice Monkey on September 30, 2016, 11:04:58 AM
The thing is though how do we actually know Other is Dolby Vision?  Has it been confirmed by Himedia or is it speculation and guess work?

What's its relevance? Unless you expect it is a magical setting improving PQ a lot? Tried it myself in practice but no magic there.
No DV material around neither, so not way to test it that way. No guarantee that DV support will be included later either.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: PJDavis1970 on September 30, 2016, 01:54:32 PM
The thing is though how do we actually know Other is Dolby Vision?  Has it been confirmed by Himedia or is it speculation and guess work?

What's its relevance? Unless you expect it is a magical setting improving PQ a lot? Tried it myself in practice but no magic there.
No DV material around neither, so not way to test it that way. No guarantee that DV support will be included later either.

Ermm your missing my point.  People in here are saying Other is DV..  I am asking how they know this or have they guessed? 
My main point is I wish Himedia would actually release a manual with all functionality of all settings.  Personally I prefer to know exactly what each setting is doing rather than just selecting something and guessing what it does.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: Nice Monkey on September 30, 2016, 02:33:15 PM
Ermm your missing my point.  People in here are saying Other is DV..  I am asking how they know this or have they guessed? 
My main point is I wish Himedia would actually release a manual with all functionality of all settings.  Personally I prefer to know exactly what each setting is doing rather than just selecting something and guessing what it does.
We could not more agree.  ;D

Asked for that several times. Even started writing a tutorial for some aspects myself. Competing products like Zidoo X9S include a build in help with FAQ.
Title: Re: TV HDR Mode: OTHER
Post by: pcristi on September 30, 2016, 06:00:23 PM
Everything is suggest Other is not DolbyVision
- HiMedia renamed from DolbyVision to Other start with FW 1.0.3
- sys information from HMD 1.0.7 firmware is display
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SDK_VERSION:[HiSTBAndroidV600R002C00SPC031_v2016051915] Build Time:[Aug 10 2016, 19:47:08]
CHIP_VERSION: Hi3798C(0x21)_v200
PACKAGE_TYPE: BGA 19*19
DOLBY: YES
DTS: YES
ADVCA: NO
ROVI(Macrovision): NO
HDR10: YES
DolbyVision: NO